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Re: Meeting time and particulars...
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Wed, 22 May 2002 03:32:17 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Ed McGlynn writes:
In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Wayne Sardullo writes:
I guess no one was at my website of Projects and supplies????

I have ALL useful Demensions on the top of the page...?
http://www.oswego.edu/~sardullo/projects.html


Yes, I've been there, and based the 30" size recommendations on the
dimensions you have for 32x32 stud baseplates.  rtlToronto uses 30" and
commented that baseplates fit "just fine."  We'll have to convince ourselves
either way, methinks.


Well, at this point it doesn't matter, I will HAVE to make a custom table for
the roundhouse... So as long as theres height demensions it doesnt mater what
we use.

Correct.


Wayne


In lugnet.org.us.lucny, Alan Demlow writes:

...cheap too, and compatable with baseplates:
http://www.officedepot.com/shop/catalog/sku.asp?ID=369009&LEVEL=SK
...here's some legs all by themselves:
http://www.foldinglegs.com/index2.html

...but couldn't I just buy the cheap tables and steal the legs off them for
that price?  Can we consider these pre-made ones?  Office Depot has free
shipping, no tools required, and the 30"x60" fits

I like those middle tables, Ed! Great Find.  We can discuss this table stuff

The middle tables are NOT compatible with baseplate dimensions, strictly
speaking--they would have to be 30 1/4" X 60 1/2" in order to fit 3x6 road
plates, according to PNLTC's table plan. I haven't tried measuring baseplates
myself, and this could still work for a small setup (you could put a couple of
1/4" gaps here and there), but it's not a viable long-term solution, I don't
think.  Of course, that's up to those of you who will be here long-term to
decide, but I thought I'd point this out in order to make sure we don't have a
slightly unpleasant surprise down the road.

Alan

Yeah, the proof's in the pudding, so to speak.  We should actually measure a
baseplate, or better yet, I'll take some to OfficeDepot and place them on
the units directly.  I've measured them at 10"x10" in the past, and two
other clubs I'm aware of use 30" tops for train layouts.  It's one thing to
talk about this stuff, and another to physically test it out, of course.

PNLTC discusses table dimensions in their website prose as being 3' wide,
and hold 9 32x32 baseplates.  That says 30" by 30" to me, but I definitely
see your point - the plans indicate and extra .25" both in width and length.
Curious.  I've squinted at a bunch of their show pics trying to find
evidence that the .25" isn't used, and it's hard to pick out.  Look at
http://www.pnltc.org/Gal_LLCA_0801/Europa/Gallery.html?08030032 and you can
see a gap at the right edge - is that the extra .25"?  Perhaps the rest of
the module isn't filled to the brim with baseplate, but we'll just have to
see.  The trouble is that they use matching LEGO primary colors on the table
surface, so it's hard to get a contrast.  This pic shows a great scene, but
it's too close to call on the edges:
http://www.pnltc.org/Gal_LLCA_0801/Europa/Gallery.html?PIC00144
My guess is that the .25" is used to absorb the space that's created when
you actually join 9 32x32 baseplates together on a single surface.  The
plates will be about 1/32" apart once they have a brick or plate spanning
them to join the whole mess together.  If you lay 9 baseplates edge-to-edge
it may be 30", but in practice, gaps are evoked.  That adds up across three
baseplates, and there you have it.  I guess I'll have to actually measure an
OfficeDepot table to see if they include an extra .25" to help out poor
souls like us  :^)
What am I saying...I'm talking myself out of the strict 30" argument!  Argh.

...the quest remains!
Ed

...a few seconds of digging reveals Ben Fleskes' comments relevant to this
matter, and proves that Alan's probably right:
http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/lucny/?n=404
"[1] a PNLTC 30" x 60" module is actually (30.24" x 60.47" or 96 x 192
studs), we just call it a 30x60.  If you actually made them the shorter
length things wouldn't fit right."

If Ben says so, then it is so.  It is his design, after all.  Let this be a
lesson to us all to challenge a mathemetician over such dimensional details!

How about we place the stock 30"x60" tables, oh, let's say, 0.235" apart at
shows?
:^)

Ed



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Am I ever a lucky guy. I recently found out that the folding table under my 40x80 inch lego table is roughly 30x62 inches long, and it folds in half to 30x31 inches, perfect for planning any future modules for Lucnyville. Excellent... :) -Dave (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.org.us.lucny)

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(...) Yes, I've been there, and based the 30" size recommendations on the dimensions you have for 32x32 stud baseplates. rtlToronto uses 30" and commented that baseplates fit "just fine." We'll have to convince ourselves either way, methinks. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.org.us.lucny)

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