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Re: rtlToronto, the Road Ahead/VM Questions
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Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:11:13 GMT
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Some thoughts from an 'outsider'...

For the record, if anyone wants my opinion, I'm very happy to give it.  And sometimes, even if no one wants it, you'll still get it.

I'm not sold on the most-cash-wins idea, nor the vend-what-you-please
idea.  To add to these debates:

Personally, I don't like it, either.  If that is the only criteria, then maybe the contest should be 'Best Deal' not 'Vending Machine' because the contest could come down to which device/product is the best deal.  ("The Price is Right?")  (Wait, that's an American show.  Do you guys get that up there?)

I believe the idea is to see who can make the machine that's the most fun to operate.  Is that correct?

I'd like to get feedback on what weights people would give different
scoring categories:

Appearance:  A replica full-sized coke machine with blinking lights
would do well
Technical merit:  An all-lego change-making vending machine that carves
your likeness out of a bar of soap would do well
$$Vended: A $100-bill-for a quarter vending machine consisting of a cup
for donations and a tray for the $100 bills would do well.

Other categories?  And who gets to judge?

I've participated in events with a few different LEGO groups, and it usually seems like there is at least one entry that doesn't win, but still becomes the crowd favorite.  It seems like the goal of this event is to find that entry.

Here are a couple ideas I've talked with others about:
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A 'strategy' award:  First, the robot designer should state the strategy of the robot: What is the robot's Strategy?  Sometimes, it may be odious.

Next, the crowd will award points for each of the following categories (1 to 5, 5 being best)

1) Is the Strategy...  Well implemented?  (Did the robot do what it should?)
2) ... Effective? (Did the strategy work?)
3) ... Winning?  (Did the bot win?)
4) ... Unique?  (not used by other robots, today)
5) ... Popular with the crowd?

The last couple questions may carry more weight than the others.
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OR

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Awards:
1) First Place
2) Mechanical design (Most compact, Least compact,  Most complex mechanically, Least complex mechanically, Heaviest, Most wheels used, Least wheels used,...
3) Creative/Original (Appearance, Closest mouse simulation, Fun Strategy, Funny looking,...)
---

Those don't directly fit this event, but the idea is to pick a couple categories (like Jeff said) and score each entry for each category.  I was thinking that would be a lot of work, but if the people voting (more later) had a sheet with a row for each robot/entry, and a column for each category, they could easily fill in the scores & totals.

Everyone present should be able to vote.  This would encourage everyone to bring friends, and I could bring my whole family.  Would there be a minimum voting age?  I guess a person would have to be able to fill out the voting form by themselves...

If this was considered a good way to score, the next thing is to collect categories for scoring.

Like:
Appearance
Technical merit/Mechanical design
Creative/Original
Popular/Favorite
$$Vended

Just some thoughts
Steve
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  Re: rtlToronto, the Road Ahead/VM Questions
 
"Steve Hassenplug" <hassenplug@mail.com> wrote in news:20020820221116....nmail.com: (...) Hope you don't mind other thoughts from another 'outsider'... I agree with Steve, the winner should be the machine which is most fun to operate. That said, IMO (...) (22 years ago, 21-Aug-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
  Re: rtlToronto, the Road Ahead/VM Questions
 
(...) You and me both! I wish you'd fix your posting mechanism though, if you could, because it's breaking threads. This is none of my business as I have little standing, but here's my 1.285 cents (2 cents canadian) anyway... The ideal set of rules (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
  Re: rtlToronto, the Road Ahead/VM Questions
 
(...) Well there's my vending machine concept right there - I'll build something that, for a token, will prod Steve until he dispenses an opinion... (...) Thirded (...) Yes, but only when the blizzards let up to allow reception in mid July... (...) (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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