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Re: I dont want to be a "steve"
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Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:27:57 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote:
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> I'll give you my two demonstrated dink worthy situations so far:
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> -Entering in a Lego sticker as a sumo competitor (JeffE)
Actually (Calum's not going to like this) I think that was a novel approach.
Knowing that it's almost impossible for that 'entry' to cause an opponent to
leave the sumo ring (unless it gets tangled in the opponent's sensors), that
means the goal was to 'Not Lose'. Is that a valid strategy?
In rtl 13 (Last Bot Standing), more than one robot left the platform on it's
own. Most notably, Chris' robot would sometimes exit the platform on it's own,
occasionally climbing over the opponent to do so.
That's no different than building a 'marble sorting robot' that just sits in
it's home square for 3 minutes, and hopes the other guy does a bad job of
sorting.
Novel or dink? Your call.
> -Battery box thing on PipeRacers (Steve)
The really funny part about this 'dink' was the outcome. I can accept that my
original strategy (having the battery box separate from the rest of the robot)
was not allowed. That's why the 'bot' had mounting brackets for it. Actually,
I didn't even think about having it detached until a few days before the event.
Did it do well BECAUSE the battery box was not attached? No. With the battery
box mounted, it was still able to cover more than 80% of the course, before
reaching ANY opponents.
Why? The motors. It used 2 RC buggy motors, and everyone else used standard
Mindstorms motors. Novel idea or dink?
I'm really not sure why you hate me over this one issue.
> -Dinkness is a scale. Someone once said there's a fine line between genius and
> insanity, and a fine line between arrogance and brilliance. It's the same with
> being novel and a dink.
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> Maybe I'll say, novel is anything that makes people say "Wow, that's cool".
> Dinkiness is anything that makes people groan and say "Wow, what a dork".
The problem is that people all have different 'dinkness' scales.
Last year at Brickfest (2002) I built a 'scree wacker' that would reach out and
touch the finish line in the Scree Runner event (race across a pile of LEGO
blocks). I actually thought it was rather dinkish. But I didn't want to see
someone else use the same idea and win the event. During the event, there were
a lot of people that would say "this is cool, you've got to see this" And,
there were a lot of groans. Novel or dink? Different people will say different
things.
> example. Chris and I disagree if Rob's Hexagone is being dinky. Chris thinks
> it is, because it doesn't look like a monkey. But if the spirit is something
> that can swing the mass from one bar to another, then I think it's a great
> solution and extremely well executed one at that. So I think Rob is novel,
> Chris borders on dinky.
Chris has a different dink scale.
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| (...) If you read the goal as not lose, then you've read it wrong, at least here in Toronto. A long time ago, we suspected a competitor cheated in a sumo event. Perhaps that person thought the goal was to "Not lose". (...) That's just dumb. That's (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| (...) I'll give you my two demonstrated dink worthy situations so far: -Entering in a Lego sticker as a sumo competitor (JeffE) -Battery box thing on PipeRacers (Steve) I've been thinking hard about dinkness, and it's a vague accusation. Make hard (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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