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  Re: Xerox GUI ideas vs. Apple GUI ideas (Was: Perl rules!)
 
(...) You can say many things about Wired [1], but at least they have an online archive. The above is available at: -> (URL) Cheers, (...) :: paul [1] such as it's gone from being an essential geek read to far too business orientated and obsessed (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Xerox GUI ideas vs. Apple GUI ideas (Was: Perl rules!)
 
(...) I finally got around to remembering to report on this. Of all places, I saw this theory posed in (my autographed copy of :-) the book _Just Java_, 4th Edition by Peter van der Linden, on page 341 (light relief after chapter 13 on Applets). To (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Check out SGI's web page with it turned on. I think it makes an example of good use. (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) This absolutely baffles me. Javascript was the original browser security hole, and even after dozens of revisions, it still causes more annoyance than usefulness. Yet so many people are so incredibly fond of it. :-P (...) That would be nice. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Well, MediaOne, for a while. I don't use them as my home page (duh) but if I wanted information on anything, that was annoying. SGI's site doesn't _require_ javascript, but it's a lot nicer with. There's others. I wish there were better (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Like who? They don't get my visit. But I've never had a problem. If a site requires more than basic HTML, I find that life actually becomes easier if I avoid it. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Unfortunately, a lot of sites are becoming javascript-dependent. The hassle of having javascript turned off is worse than that of having it turned on. (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Datsville
 
(...) Turn off Javascript. There will be no pop-up windows with Javascript turned off. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: The Pleiades
 
Op een zekere dag, te weten Mon, 6 Sep 1999 06:41:35 GMT, klom "Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> in het toetsenbord en schreef ons: (...) Yeah, they're beautiful. I remember the first time I looked at them through a telescope..... Low magnification (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  The Pleiades
 
Wow. It's after midnight and I'm walking my dog, in what must be some of the thickest light pollution in which one can see stars, when I glance at something I've never noticed before, just above the east horizon. The Pleiades were just bright (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) I'm with ya. OK, lemme practice. Ahem. :'] ___...___begin rant___...___ Microsoft Internet Explorer is a rickety, rotten, bug-infested, malodorous cesspool of filth, coughed up like a steaming pus-infected hairball from the collective bellies (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) I wonder why so many people have a hard time telling I'm being sarcastic and so many others don't? I think most people get it IRL. In fact, I know they do. :) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Nobody? Tell that to all the people who made a killing with the RedHat IPO. (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Heh. You're not disagreeing with what I meant, just what I said. I think Communicator 4.5 on is a pile of garbage. If I ever see another stupid bug report window pop up within 30 seconds of running their stupid product I'll never bother trying (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Which UTK PCs? If you mean the ones in the labs they most certainly do not have IE5 on them, nor will they have it anytime real soon. I like IE5 alot, and I get pretty freakin tired of all the stupid potshots people take at it and MS without (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Um, Mike was being sarcastic. (...) ^^^...^^^ Twice as fast? (...) Really? Could you take a screen-shot of my website, for example this page: (URL) the inline frame work on this page: (URL) Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Hey! Who let that guy in? He's obviously a MS henchman sent here to delude us from the Truth! Just kidding Asher. Have you considered working for Linux? Oops, that's right, Linux is free, nobody makes money there... 5 more years of MS, tick.. tick.. (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) I have to disagree with you on this one. I've downloaded Netscape 4.6 to 3 computers 6 separate times. Each one installed ok, but on 2 everytime you (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
Hi Mike, Will this have an effect on UTK's PC's? They use IE5, I believe. Adam (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Help with Digital Photography
 
(...) I've just ordered a Nikon Coolpix 950. It matches almost my entire digital-camera wishlist (1), and has a superb macro mode. I'm hoping to get some great lego shots. (1) Wishlist: - Higher than 1024x768 resolution - nice LCD which can actually (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Opera Software browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Hmm, it's kind of crippled without cookie support, isn't it. Not that I'm a fan of the way so many sites mis-use cookies, but when they're used the right way, cookies are a goshdarn excellent browser feature. --Todd [followups to .publish] (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Knowing Mike (and Netscape), I think this was sarcasm. Personally, I prefer Mosaic for some things. Small, no install, no applets. I shall check out Opera soon. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Opera Software's browser (was: Re: MSIE5 security hole)
 
(...) Hmm, there must be a way to turn off MDI. (But I didn't find one.) Mike? I do like the URL being at the bottom of the page rather than the top... :) But egad, just in the first 5 minutes I've noticed a couple really horrible flaws... Like, for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeah, it is fairly retro. (...) Nah, don't have time to play much anymore. That's why I've removed everything but 95/98/NT from my machines at home and at work. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeah, ok. That's why every single point version since 4.5 has crashed on me multiple times within the first day of use, leading ultimately do its removal from my system. (...) Yup. Fast. (...) Makes no difference to me. I just want something (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Yeahwell, Netscape has acted like a clogged toilet too, some times. But at least they've always worked hard to clear it out rather than stop it up more. :) (...) Hmm, sounds interesting. www.opera.com? I'll give it a try for a few days... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Man, I hate their user inteface. Very clumsy, ugly, and Windows 3.0-era. (MDI? Ugh.) Have you looked at any of the recent Mozilla devel milestones? It's obviously still pre-alpha, but coming along really nicely. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
No offence but that is the biggest crock of you know what. Ok, you can probably figure out who I work for, but since I work directly with these security issues, you can be sure that Netscape has many. -- Asher (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
When you say 'full-featured' that means full of bugs and security holes, right? :) Bring back HTML 1.0 ! John Matthews Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7srpal.8f6....UTK.EDU... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: MSIE5 security hole
 
(...) Luckily we have Netscape Communicator to use instead - a program with absolutely no bugs or security issues of its own. I personally prefer Opera over them both, to be honest. It's just not full-featured yet. (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  MSIE5 security hole
 
AdamH just sent around this URL in an email... (URL) is a clogged toilet. --Todd (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Smarter mice play with Lego!
 
(URL) lugnet.off-topic.geek] (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: The Return of THE BRICKYARD!
 
(...) Thanks Larry, I'll keep that in mind. Glad you like the site... (...) If I run into scaling issues, you'll be the first to know! {g} Thanks again for the feedback, Gene @ The Brickyard The Brickyard Not just parts. Possibilities. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: The Return of THE BRICKYARD!
 
Caution, MySQL isn't transaction safe. It doesn't even SUPPORT transactions. Cool stuff otherwise, though. So don't spin up multiple copies of your server, or you'll be sorry. (if you get to the point where you have a scaling problem, you're doing (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  DVD Tracker
 
Posting this to .geek because even though it is kinda funny I think only geeks would really do something like this. I just did it, of course. Here's a link to the DVDs I own. The list is partial right now because about half of mine are on loan to a (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Problem with my pictures
 
I think the problem is solved, and I am going to work on fixing all the images. If anyone looks at them later (about an hour), and they are still not working, please let me know. Thanks, Sean (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Problem with my pictures
 
(...) If anyone tries these pictures, can you please try the 1 x 2 hinge. I changed it, so if it works, then maybe the problem is solved. Thanks, Sean (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  "recommended selections" and languages
 
I just got my weekly "you might like..." post from mp3.com, which is usually entertaining. Unfortunately they seem to have decided that my preferred language is Japanese, and my preferred music style is 60s ballad. The language is annoying but (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Cyrillic
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) Maybe, and it's cheap to find out :) I'd look for a valid message to get the charset line from, and paste that into the old message. One simple precaution would be to forward the message to yourself (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)


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