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  Re: MichLUG Items in Debate not Appropriate
 
(...) Then why reply to them? (...) -no, what I am _not_ in favor of is having a non religious group become religious because of a minority opinion. I said, (...) (from .debate 10087) (...) What I wrote (I'm not sure you read it was: (...) -please (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.michlug)
 

political
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  "The Roots of Muslim Rage"
 
Another cite. I got this one from Slate -- it's an article by Bernard Lewis that was published in the Atlantic Monthly a while ago. (URL) the whole thing, but I'd like to quote from the last two paragraphs: "THE movement nowadays called (...) (23 years ago, 21-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) Welcome! The more opinions, the better, IMO (...) Ahh. I was an art major in college. (...) Interesting. Although I think that a lot of beautiful things have been created since the end of the abstract expressionists, perhaps the concept of (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: A Brave New World
 
(...) Hmm. We all send 'peace keeping' forces around the world, but they usually have some degree of domestic interest involved. I was impressed with Clinton's involvement in the middle east, and his involvement in Northern Ireland (though not to (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Reagan... not exactly libertarian, but close
 
(...) I wasn't whining at all. I could not care less. He's a republican. Blah. (...) Bush has to do something to pretend he is a centrist, I wouldn't be surprised. It would be the smart move. (...) No. Not at the price of having Dubya select any (...) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: The absurdity of American pop culture
 
(...) There is nothing new in Washington using "fear" to make you a good American. If you read about the work of Edward Bernays, you will see that it is the fear of communism & non-conformity which has been the basis of the economic prosperity of (...) (21 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

political
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  Re: A Brave New World
 
(...) Nope, not me. American, was he? (...) Personally, I think this one does some good. There's serious discussion about this in the UK now, to replace the firearms of our armed police units. So long as this is still the exception rather than (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Response to Misinformation (Some other perspectives on the tragedy)
 
(...) A lot has been picked over in terms of the rhetoric of peace, so fine...Does the euphemism "collateral damage" mean human lives? How can you be so callous? Aren't we in hell already? (...) What does "historically theirs" mean? I'd like an (...) (23 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
I know you were writing to John, but... (...) Well, probably for a while longer. My thing is that we've taken on a responsibility by mucking things up in Iraq. What we've done so far has be pretty bad. What we'd be doing by bailing out would be even (...) (18 years ago, 6-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) You can get shot in any country, thank you very much, whether or not they have guns, illegal or otherwise. Did you hear of Bosnia, maybe. Chechnya (SP?) etc. Destroy what? (...) Ah, we have communities over here, Richard, whether you believe (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Conspiracy theories
 
(...) You're right that such thinking is predicated on a logical fallacy, but that doesn't make assertions on either side true or false on that basis alone. And I found your "snopes" site to be no more reliable (plenty of asserted *truth* there, (...) (23 years ago, 21-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: gay by birth vs. gay by choice
 
(...) That'd be great, except that the demands are not that simple. I really wish I new where to look for the lawsuits, I've heard about them on the news and from Christians, but I've never been able to read about them. (...) It is no longer that (...) (23 years ago, 5-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: What is spam? (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment
 
(...) I think he was referring to your efforts to veer the debate in an attempt to make First Amendment = Child Pornography. Granted, there's room for a .debate there, but that's not the crux of the matter (nor, technically, is it a problem with the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Evolution vs Creationism
 
(...) Well, you're making several different points here, so let's take them one by one; First off, John R's not saying Creationism isn't "valid;" he's saying that it's not a "valid scientific theory," and he's 100% correct. Creationism is not (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?)
 
(...) I can't see that we do. Sure, we have politicians regurgitating all kinds of pretty vocalized crap, but I haven't seen many real attempts at apology. (...) Um, sorry, wrong. The people as a whole *didn't* do these things. Neither, I'm sure, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) {:-0 Well excuuuse me;-) Didn't know if you were simply toting the party line, or if what you are debating was *yours* (...) If you are referring to zoning laws, then yes. Perhaps it is immoral and flawed, but the obvious benefit outweighs (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: I don't think the Southern Baptist *Anyone* can say *anything* about *anyone else*
 
(...) It's completely hypocritical. I understand why people might think divorces are relevant. They're a character issue. And like it or not, people judge others based on character. If you've been arrested 11 times for various robberies, thefts, or (...) (18 years ago, 7-Mar-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

political
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  Re: Interesting idea...?!
 
(...) I've never seen it discussed here, but the excellent radio program This American Life ran a story on it recently: (URL) that link doesn't work, go to (URL) and look for the episode titled "Regime Change" from 4/18/03. Critics sometimes look (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) "Seems"? Is that like saying that water "seems" wet? (...) This is exactly the reason why many powerful nations have laws specifically prohibiting themselves from negotiating with terrorists. It gives the politicians a legal and quasi-moral (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

political
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  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
(...) Who are smart enough to know what level or risk is appropriate in all situations. Right? (...) The 'correct' speed. (...) What Larry is saying is that while they might be exceeding the posted speed limit, the problem is that the posted speed (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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