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		Re: Nature of rights? (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) Well, yes and no. If you know or can establish that the person you are debating has a fundamentally different view of a basic principle, and has a track record of never changing their mind, it may be that the "best" you can do is get that (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.970)

		Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) You do not have to unmake that particular omelette, only share it. Knowing your stance on property rights, I am amazed you are so lax on this{1}. Or is the whole basis of your reality based on an action of "might makes right" - even if we (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.967)

		Libertarian Propaganda
There isn't enough to debate around here these days ( grin) so here's some fodder. Rather than excerpting, here it is in its entireity. Note in particular point #3, which I think may be the most significant of the 5, although I'm rather fond of #1 (...) (23 years ago, 13-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.964)

		Re: Libertarian Propaganda (was incorrectly referred to as SPAM elsewhere in the thread)
Warning! I am replying to Larry Pieniazek here! Of course, that means lots of quoted text is included to keep the context clear, and this post is a doozy! You have been warned! (...) sniff I feel SO special sob (gently wipes small tear of (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.963)

		Re: Lobster Bisque (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
(...) I don't think he was questioning the reasonability of your statement. He wanted you to cite some of the sources that you've used to come to that conclusion. Actually, I was reading the group yesterday when larry posted and went off to search (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.959)

		Re: Child rearing (was: Nothing personal, but...)
Thanks for the response Shiri, I was begining to worry that my poor behavior had actually run everyone off from the topic. That, I think, would be an embarrassing first. I'll be disagreeing more politely now. :-) (...) In as much as you are (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.959)

		Re: National vote on handguns?
(...) I made it up myself. ::rant mode set at 11:: My point would be that the traditional, and especially current, uses of the words "radical," "conservative," "liberal," and etc. are so abused as to no longer make any sense at all. They have lost (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.948)

		Re: National vote on handguns?
Hey Y'all: I am amazed at the variety of subjects y'all are willing to debate here -- everything from polyamory, to Larry and Scott, to gun control. I have taken part once or twice before, but boy! -- some of you are hard-core! This time, I'll step (...) (23 years ago, 22-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.947)

		Re: The position of authority (was: Handgun Death Rate)
(...) The difference may be a matter of scale (The U.S. is much larger than the U.K. both in size and population -- hence we are each of us less represented, or more distanced, from our representatives esp. at the federal level) and the fact that in (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.947)

		Re: Cuba
(...) I'd go with the utilitarian argument that people don't seem to have much in the way of choices, material goods, freedom of expression, action, or movement, and some desperately want to leave to the extent of risking their lives to do so. Will (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.929)

		My God...my truth...my pain...
This is going to be quite personal I think, and purhaps quite long. It will very likely not be worded well. What I have to say may enrage a few of you, but I am offering my thoughts to the public debate because I am young and still have room for (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.920)

		not sure what to call this
Hmm... not sure if you are referring to whence resource property rights, or is it the luck factor that you are wondering about. (...) Chris has alluded to this problem in the past. Asserting labor mixin as a mechanism to getting title to previously (...) (23 years ago, 11-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.915)

		Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
(...) It does not sound all that great when you describe it like that? (...) I agree with some of what you say, but at times I think we get too hung up on property rights. (...) Thanks again for your comments. I think we all have good things to (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.912)

		Re: Israel and Palestine
(...) Would it be possible for ownership to be purchased from legitimate previous owners rather than having had to have been in the family all that time? Or are you saying that purchasing land can't be done, only inheritance is acceptable as a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.911)

		Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
(...) Well almost any kind of minor legal hassle can have the appearance of erroding my rights -- including a bill to stop terrorist activities. The real test comes in time, tested in the courts, and sometimes even retested in the courts. Sometimes (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.908)

		Re: One of my issues with the god of the old testament
(...) The most basic moral law that I can postulate would be some derivative of selfless love. Any lesser principle would be subservient to this, and thus, morally broken. Theft could clearly be moral, if, for example, one were stealing guns from an (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.893)

		the LEGO corporation is a sinister arm of Western global hegemony?
From the National Review. I don't necessarily agree with all of Peter's reasoning but I found it an interesting read. You may as well, or not. (URL) found the last paragraph "And, in a roundabout way, the Maori have made their peace with (...) (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.890)

		Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die
(...) Please do so, but understand that Tore is exactly correct in urging you to direct your postings to their proper groups. Despite what some may think, LUGNET is not a homogeneous and publicly-owned forum; it is private property, and those who (...) (23 years ago, 29-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 3.885)

		Re: The real Phantom Menace and the fall of the republic
I'm replying to bits of John's post as well as Chris'. (...) I think I understand your intended point here, but the notion that The American Way should be what it was 200 years ago is baseless and anachronistic. The American Way of 200 years ago was (...) (23 years ago, 30-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 3.885)

		Re: FOTY, at least for me.
(...) But you see NC State is wrong. Even those people are doing a service. My former employer got season ticks to the Pistons one year, and they were more hapless than usual, winning hardly any important games. So it got to where the firm was (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 3.862)

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