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		Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
(...) Yes, it makes sense. There are certain rights that virtually everyone wants for themselves, so we make a compact with the others in a given group to acknowledge that it is best for all concerned that we grant those rights to all within the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
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		Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
I'm addressing three of Frank's notes here, not just the one upline from where I'm posting. As a result of my use of "good and just" coupled with the assertion that rights are merely a legal construct, Frank pointed out that we need to know the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.593)

		Re: Idiots, Part Deux
(...) Fundamentally, I see no problem whatsoever in animals having and being given property rights. As to what happens to the estate when Fido dies without issue? What happens when your kid who inherited your estate dies without issue? We have (...) (22 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 1.587)

		Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
I have decided that it makes the most sense for me to stop talking about space in the universe and just talk about land. Bear in mind that I think the argument extrapolates out to all habitable space, but for now, talking about land might be easier. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 1.587)

		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) To be fair, slaves and women were seen more as property than people by many of the colonists, and they basically inherited the idea that political rights were tied to landownership from England. But if you were a white male landowner in the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Wrong, yourself. The Federal government has no right to make a law declaring same-sex marriage illegal. They can always make a constitutional amendment. Also, state governments don't need to be given specific permission to do something as long (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

all, rights, property
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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Chalk this part up to miscommunication, then. And for the record, I certainly don't believe that any "rights" are truly inherent and undeniable (inalienable). (...) Science may be a flawed tool, in the same way that the Constitution is a (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
(...) Let's establish henceforth that any time a debater uses "activist judges" as a means to trump an argument, then the debater has forfeited the argument. The Left has not forced the issue. One state's judiciary has rightly identified the laws (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Snip onerous list, but look out, I've gone long again. (...) There is no doubt that rule of law and property rights are problems in some places. As are local tinpots (which the first world tends to prop up in the name of trade which abhors (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 1.545)

		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) Bollocks. Most of the problems of the third world countries that are doing poorly are attributable to lack of the rule of law, and lack of enforceable property rights in those countries. Claiming it's the first world's fault is, frankly, a (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
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		Re: From Richard: "It's all bad news - Chaos is my fault"
(...) There is a negative correlation between the average family size and the per capita GDP (or any of a number of other economic maturity indicators), in that as GDP goes up, people have less children. This is attributed to the shift away from (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

all, rights, property
(score: 1.541)

		Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations
(...) I frankly don't care what they believe; it's what they do that can concern me... (...) Harriet Miers was a terrible choice-- unqualified, and a crony. The Dems should be thankful that they were spared the job of excoriating a woman nominee (...) (19 years ago, 5-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

rights, property
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		Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!
(...) Generosity makes us better people (at least in my code of values--if it doesn't in yours then there's nothing but for us to agree to disagree). If our "generosity" is fueled only by a desire to earn a space in heaven, we are buying, not (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.405)

		The Bill of Rights and Privacy
THE BILL OF RIGHTS The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(score: 1.389)

		Re: Does it pay to be a Patriot?
(...) Well, they certainly want to be freemen, one of the 22 enumerated statuses of persons in the U.S. Constitution, and that is a worthy goal. But... Patriots, as both you and the govt. call them, are probably a very misunderstood group. Many of (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.376)

		Re: Separation of Church and State
(...) From the article, I'm not 100% sure, but I interpret the issue to have occurred on the grounds of two public schools. Am I correct? If so, then here's my answer: It's not liberalism at all; it is an objective and correct reading of the First (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.375)

		Re: An armed society...
(...) But according to the Constitution, it is the Court that is empowered to interpret the law. (...) I've had a small and far-too-late epiphany on this matter, or at least on how to articulate my feelings about it, so I think I might finally have (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.371)

		Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
(...) I wish I could locate a cite right now, but the average american believes wrongly that they are within the top 1-5% of the wealthy in the U.S. Costello believes wrongly that the average american is doing well economically, but is probably (...) (21 years ago, 5-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.364)

		Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
(...) Excellent! (...) Yes and no. All debates revolve around appeals to ethos, logos, and pathos. In English these are ethical, logical, and emotional appeals; repectively. In mentioning Xtianity, I was remembering Costello's trust in a praying (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.363)

		Re: Property Rights are the foundation of freedom
(...) The true irony here is the fact that labor laws have not improved working conditions, just relocated them. The same conditions that were so horrible in this country, now exist in under developed countries, and those manafacturing jobs that (...) (21 years ago, 2-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(score: 1.362)

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