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Re: Who does W. Love? BIG OIL!!!
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Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:27:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > Third-world countries produce far more pollution than the entire
> > > U.S. does and no one targets them.
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> > How do you suggest we control their emissions? Invade?
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> Besides which--is that assertion based on evidence or rhetoric? I don't
> see how third-world countries, which are by definition under-industrialized,
> can be blamed for producing more pollution than the United Smokestack of
> America.
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> Dave!
Dave!:
Proportionately, developing nations do indeed put greater amounts of pollutants
into the atmosphere than developed nations - chiefly because poorer countries
either lack, or have chosen not to install, pollution control devices that
mitigate the problem. China is a good example of this - it is heavily dependent
on the burning of "soft" coal, which is bituminous, IIRC, and heavy with carbon
that produces soot when burned.
In the U.S., really, the major contributor of green house gases is automotive
emissions, not refineries or power plants. Most "smokestacks" have very good
pollution regulators. You're from Pittsburgh, right? Here in Houston, the
smoke coming out of our refinery smokestacks is white, but 40 years ago it was
black. I'd warrant that its the same in Pittsburgh. (The real problem with
refineries is that at night they often try to burn off unregulated quantities of
all sorts of nasty things - the Big Boys aren't above a little skullduggery.)
Anyway, basically, our automotive culture is contributing the lion's share of
our poor air quality, while in third world countries it is unregulated or
antiquated power plants that are causing the problem.
james
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| (...) That's a very good point. "Proportionately" is a tricky word in this context because ultimately it's the net amount (and severity) of pollution, not the relative amount that's important. (...) 8^) I'm a recent import to Pittsburgh, but I've (...) (23 years ago, 20-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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