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...And now that you've all read that subject line you've probably said to yourself "aha! - He's been trapped and knows it and is going to make an excuse so he doesn't have to admit he's wrong".....and you're entitled to think that if you wish, and (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Honestly, I don't think that at all. What do I think? I think this is a phenomenally hard topic for a lot of people. I'm used to it. So are a lot of the people here. Heck, that's why we post so much-- because we've had lots of practice at (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ditto to this and all that followed. I've been chomping at the bit all week, just dying to jump in, but didn't for much the same reasons. At this point I would like to share a few observations, but only because I'm preparing to take my monthly (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm going to jump right in here and say, that every thing you just said is the only thing that has made sence in this whole debate. and I whole hartedly agree with every word of it. my two cents worth. Gary Bill Farkas <wolfe65@msn.com> wrote in (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Evolution. All "macro-evolution" is is a great accumulation of changes over a great deal of time. That's it! The process isn't any different. Since you acknowledge the process happens, all that needs to be established is geologic time (and (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an important point, and worth elaborating. While anti-evolutionist are fond of saying that there hasn't been enough time for viable amino sequences to form, given the huge range of possible chemical combinations, they're overlooking (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(Note: I'm not debating in this post) (...) Well you're sort of right and sort of not. My problem with this particular debate is my lack of debate experience coupled with my lack of scientific training. To be truthful, however, I have studied the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's often very helpful to watch a debate before joining in, just to get a feel for the dynamics of the group, if not just the subject matter. And sometimes it's amazing how much it changes when you actually are the one who's in the limelight. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me either :^) (...) I think a lot of time is wasted disputing points (eg fossils) rather than more general arguments (eg whether scientific observation of Evolution is based on faith or theory). The misleading distortions of the Creationists (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I mostly agree with Dave here... so I snipped most of it. (...) I don't see this as disruptive, not at all. I think if you're going to say "here is the explanation to everything", that a counter argument pointing out that the explanation doesn't (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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