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| | | (...) I think that something we've been forgetting is that the "deadbeat" might very well be the victim too. There is no knowing that he knows there is a child in the world of his genetic lineage. Just a point, Chris (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Family values? —Tom Stangl
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| | | | He's not much of a victim - it was HIS choice to take the risk of causing a pregnancy (even IF birth control methods were used) - no sympathy from me there. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Family values? —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) there. So you wouldn't feel victimized if you found out that you had a ten year old son that had been kept from you? I would. Chris (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Family values? —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | I meant he wouldn't be much of a victim to be forced to pay child support due to his previous action. I thought that was obvious. I KNOW *I* don't have any children in the world, and never will. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Family values? —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | (...) If he wasn't informed about the pregnancy in a timely manner and if he would have willingly taken on the responsiblility had he known, I think it's fair to say he's a victim in all this too. Maggie C. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Family values? —Tom Stangl
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| | | | So the only one that isn't a victim is the non-biological father forced to pay child support? That's the largest pile of bovine dung I've ever heard! (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Family values? —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | (...) No, I agree he's a victim too. If anyone is not a victim in all this it would be the mother, who should have informed both of her partners of the possibility that either of them could be the father at the very beginning. Maggie C. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Family values? —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) pay (...) possibility (...) I don't usually do this, but... Yeah! What she said. I certainly never meant to imply that the false-father wasn't a vicitim. He's the worst one. Chris (23 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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