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Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
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Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:39:47 GMT
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This is tough but I think its a worthy discussion...

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> I think Todd got "played". (And I recently said I didn't think Todd was easy
> to fool)

With all due respect to Todd, I think Larry is right to an extent.  I told Todd
in a private E-mail that I thought MM was mostly full of it.  MM thinks very
highly of himself and I would be supprised if he had many "real" freinds.  My
guess is that MM lives in a virtual world with little social interaction out of
it.

> 
> Social Engineering my foot. If that was what MM was up to, it has no place
> here. But I don't think it was, I think it was just another layer of
> deception. This guy is amazingly deep and amazingly twisted.

I also mentioned to Todd that I thought MM seemed to contradict himself
regularly and seemed to have hugh emotional swings.  I wouldn't be supprised if
MM had some sort of schizophrenic or multiple personality disorder
(Unfortunately I have a fair amount of family experiance with this).  Of course
that is an assumption on my part and I am not a doctor but it is clear MM has
some real problems.

> 
> Now, I do think that helping people out with things like spelling hygiene and
> how to ask questions and where stuff is and so forth is worthy and could
> possibly be construed as SE. But I don't think it is. If it was I'd be against
> it and I'm not so it must not be. :-)

Well personally I could care less about spelling as long as it is just a word
here or there.  Actually I got pretty peeved once when someone E-mailed me
correcting my spelling, I didn't do anything about it but I was peeved.

If all SE was for was to make someone look at something through a different set
of eyes then I am for it.  Knowing and understanding different philosophies is
a good thing, forcing your views on someone is not.

Anyway when all is said and done I think MM was only trying to disrupt and
cause chaos with no higher calling.  Why he would want to do this in the LEGO
community I don't know but to each their own.  I never responded directly to
any of MM's posts becuase I didn't want to give him any added satisfaction.  I
did respond to other posts when I thought they were misguided but that is
because I do feel that sometimes we are a little to nice and accepting here.  I
think we could all use a look in the mirror occasionally because that will help
us become better as a community.  Constant praise usually doesn't lead to
advancement, a little self examination and healthy debating does.

So maybe in the future we can be a tad more critical but of course in a nice
way.  I know I often ask for feedback here both positive and negative (in a
constructive sense) and to tell you the truth I learn more from the
critical/constructive posts then the posts of praise.  I also don't get
offended by critical posts which might be a problem for some so maybe this is
not a good approach for all.

> 
> Sorry for that, it sounded funny when I typed it. But my UK flight is about to
> be called so I gotta be terse.

Thats OK lots of what you write here I find funny and terse.  ;-)


Eric Kingsley

The New England LEGO Users Group
http://www.nelug.org/



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  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
(...) set (...) Check. Walk a mile in the other man's shoes and all that. (...) C/becuase/because/ C/to nice and/too nice and/ <GRIN> Seriously, without starting a big war, I think most of us know that you're a bit spelling challenged, Eric. And we (...) (26 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Social Engineering (was: Re: The Friendliest Site On The Internet. (Was Re: A little self examination?))
 
I think Todd got "played". (And I recently said I didn't think Todd was easy to fool) Social Engineering my foot. If that was what MM was up to, it has no place here. But I don't think it was, I think it was just another layer of deception. This guy (...) (26 years ago, 24-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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