 | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Andrew Krug
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| | | Eric While I hate to continue this discussion on Comic Books here, for lack of anywhere else to go I will. I am well aware that Captain America is hardly "non-violent", yet I can also say that in the many years I've been reading his comics I can (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) The Frank Miller treatment of Captain America in the Daredevil story arc in issues 227-233 (I think--I'll double check, if you'd like) creates as psychologically interesting a character as any of the Wolverine stuff I've read, if only because (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Andrew Krug
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| | | | | | (...) 15- (...) I'll have to check this out. Thanks for the tip. I don't always catch Captain America in all of his crossover stuff with other characters. (...) While I usually avoid DC comics (for no particular reason) I will have to check Kingdom (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | (...) That's what lugnet.off-topic.debate is for. :D (...) Ah. Well, ok, that is very different from "non-violent". Even so, there are certainly comics that *are* very violent (see Garth Ennis' current 12-part Punisher storyline)- but they actually (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Andrew Krug
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| | | | | | Eric You make some excellent points and are obviously a huge comic book fan (which I commend). Being rather new to LUGNET I wasn't sure where my follow up message would be posted but it was nice that it ended up in this "off topic" area. This area (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, this is the place for stuff like this. I usually don't even read it, but I'm willing to brave the wilds to talk about comics. :D (...) Yeah. Liefeld... I'm not a big fan of his work. If I'm not mistaken, Liefeld is also responsible for (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) Was that ever released? I saw some production notes a few years ago, and it looked terrible! Up until X-Men, Marvel was entirely unable to make a superhero screen adaptation that wasn't awful, so it's nice to see a change at long last. I think (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not officially- not even on video! I have seen some stills (one SGI developer's kit had a shot of the Human Torch using a fireblast to deflect some sort of beam, and there was at least one other) but that's all. I have talked to a lot of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Andrew Krug
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| | | | | | Eric Once again thanks for your insight and opinion. Good to see that you also didn't care for Liefeld (if you did I might have to stop talking to you, Ha ha). I think his copycat comic was (or is) Fighting American now that you mention it. I'd (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) It was never officially released, I beleive it got tabled after post-produciton was completed because, well, it was so heinous that parties feared it would do nothing but further hurt the image of Marvel properties as movie subjects. Which was (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | Just to help you out a bit, the least expensive course for you would be to get the Kingdom Come graphic novel by Mark Waid with art by Alex Ross (my hero). It's available pretty cheap on amazon.com. The story basically deals with a future earth (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | (...) <snip> (...) Then you should probably know that Ross actually wrote the basic story behind Kingdom Come. In fact, the reason he refused to take part in the sequel "Kingdom" event (written wholly by Mark Waid) is that "Kingdom" ignored some of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | I never read Kingdom... since the art wasn't by Alex Ross :^D I thought it was supposed to be a prequel to Kingdom Come? ~Mark (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Violence in comics (was Re: A General Question About Castle World) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | (...) Eh... yes and no. Some of it takes place in the time after Kingdome Come. Some of it takes place in the time before Kingdom Come. I don't want to go into too much in case you read it at some point, but there is time travel involved. eric (24 years ago, 25-Jul-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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