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| (...) The legal rulings do get confusing, don't they? My understanding is that the ruling to hand over the child was valid and no temporary restraining order was in effect (or perhaps in effect by a sufficiently high enough court). (...) Now Larry, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In a different subthread Bruce said I was ignoring a post of his. I think THIS is the one he refers to... sorry about that. OK. (...) I think this is the key point in the post that needs responding to. Let's posit a theoretical example. Suppose (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) WARNING! Don't take your kids to America, you might never see them again! This is frought with danger. Based on China's human rights record (and gross overpopulation) if a Chinese family visited the USA with a young child, would you advocate (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Libertarian (...) Can't we just stick to the actual events? :-) (...) fight (...) Elian was at sea, was rescued, and brought here. Oh alright, I'm nit-picking on that one. (...) I don't think persecution was why they left. (...) The child (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ahhhh, I love it. Cuban commandos come parachuting down to free the Piutes, but stay to gamble a while in the Indians' Piute Palace Casino. Bruce (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Yeah! That's my job! 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Of course not. If Larry did, then he wouldn't be able to confuse you with his standard irrelevant hypotheticals. (...) Positing about an accident makes your argument irrelevant to this specific case, since Elian *didn't* wash up here (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) back, (...) I don't really think that's a matter of morality, more like time management. If you only have time to post ten messages, why bother answering banal posts? (...) that (...) Larry, do you really mean that we should abduct all kids (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Here is the catch to all these arguements. Even in a Libertarian state, the thing most revered and respected is personal freedoms. One major freedom is the right for a person to decide where they desire to live and persue happiness. If Juan Miguel, (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: I'm taking this opportunity to post contrary to Larry since it only happens once in a blue moon :-) (...) fight (...) I'm with you so far... (...) Not to me. (And to others apparently.) When the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Too bad because I've decided to recant. (mark your calendars people, this doesn't happen that often) Rereading what I said, I think I may have gone just a teeny little bit too far and built myself a house of cards that I can't support in the (...) (24 years ago, 29-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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