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(...) And I'm currently interested in what in the world the book was that talked about memes that my anthropology professor mentioned cause now you people have me curious and want to read that. (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's a good book called _Virus_of_the_Mind_ -- probably available at Amazon or Fatbrain or B&N. (And hey, if B&N doesn't have it, nobody does! ;-) --Todd (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I loathe the term "meme." It seems to focus on form to the exclusion of substance, as if ideas were magical incantations that just take over and needn't be analyzed very deeply. I think the meme theory appeals to a void in the mind of bankrupt (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Consider the following bits of everyday information: * Tanoy message in the subway stating that all trains westbound are delayed * The release date for a software package is May 2000 * Street Preacher (Manic or not) telling you that your soul (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From Erik Olsen's sig: (...) Do both. I go through 6-10 library books a week as well as heavy net use. But I don't watch TV. Kevin --- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) auctions:(URL) to my Lego auction mailing list: (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have to say that was a hasty remark of mine. I was saying to myself, "I will not use Altavista, I will not accept somebody's junky information, I will search my books first..." But since I left campus life, the only library I go to regularly is at (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right off, I'm not able to recall much from reading Dawkins (it was half my lifetime ago.) So anything I take issue with doesn't refer to his book. I'd probably benefit from reading it now! (But I've got a pile of new Stephen Jay Gould and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, that's what I meant earlier when I mentioned that religions were memes. I'm always curious how religions manage to propagate themselves. Thus, it doesn't seem surprising to me that a religion with a first commandment in which its deity (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the strategy is also to announce the desirable features of Messiah 2.0 and then not actually ship it. When others announce their version of Messiah, threaten them. Of course, a significant portion of the user base hasn't even (...) (25 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It might have been an essay, but it was a good one :) Thanks for this - I understand your previous message now! The meme-meme is an easy one to grasp but hard to master. I can't say I've mastered it yet, but I do find it interesting :) Richard (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In addition to religions, some of the more fascinating memes (IMHO) include Internet hoaxes or urban legends -- for example the so-called "Good Times Virus" hoax or the so-called "Mrs. Fields' Cookies Rcecipe" messages. It's fascinating how (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Question: If Memetics itself is a meme, is it an intellectual bank-robber meme, bankrupting non-bankrupt intellectuals in its path, or does it propagate only in the minds of those who are already intellectually bankrupt? --Todd (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... I'd have to say no because this is getting silly! (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But that one's true! I have it right here in my mailbox and can send the receipe to anyone that wants it. Ben Roller P.S. Before anyone asks for it, I was joking. :) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Richard Franks wrote: . (...) Interesting. Can you do one dividing line? That is, if you sort by accuracy, do you get a crisp place to divide, or is "usefulness" a different sort key? I think it is. For example: I'd posit (for the sane of argument) (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and definitely not a misteak! :) --Todd (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) c /sane/sake/ just a fun typo, NOT a pun try, although there are those who question my sanity and those who question whether it's not insane to try to debate here. But this one is more fun than usual. Cheers to sproat for spawning it. (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, I know. :/ Unfortunately, the 'net doesn't have very effective antibodies. Fortunately, bandwidth just keeps going up. :) Whenever I do get sent this sort of thing, I tend to reply with SARC's URL.(1) It seems to be working, since I get (...) (25 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, I looked back though .off-topic.geek , and I couldn't find whether you had revealed the identity of the text editor that uses this mysterious text replacement syntax. Do you care to do so now, or should I look even deeper? Hmmm...just (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had to do one for a basic computer skills class(1), and I must say that though the idea sounded like fun, the implementation was horribly easy. I'd love to try a hard one sometime as in general I love scavenger hunts. Ben Roller 1. Since I'm (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) scavenger (...) Not a scavenger hunt like in the Intro to Computers class. You gotta go for the real hard quests. Like, a post-doctorate dissertation on the effects of infrared light filtering in the thermosphere, or a virtual possum (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sproaticus wrote in message ... (...) you (...) deeper? As far as I know it has not been revealed. The editor is XEDIT from IBM (1). One reason Larry stated that many people use it and aren't even aware that they are using it is that there are (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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No, I never did reveal it because no one ever gave it much of a try. Frank is correct in his identification. I'd posit that more people use XEDIT without realising it than any other text editor anywhere, and that will remain true (by a careful (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course the average IBMer doesn't use XEDIT (in any guise) much anymore. We use Lotus Notes for e-mail (now there's something to debate on...). Frank (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ugh. I absolutely hate maintaining a Notes Server. And until recently, the client was incredibly horrible. Both scored negative points with me in terms of user-friendliness and flexability. But: I understand that, using the right combination (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Every Notes installation I've ever seen in real life (outside of IBM, that is) (and I've seen a bunch, trust me) always seemed to have a PROFS installation running somewhere too, for calendaring. Dunno why. I digress... PROFS is just a shell on top (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *chuckle* this would make the search more like that for El Dorado or the Flying Dutchman... *smirk* -Cheese, who is a Macintosh guru, thank you very much. Bill Gates Must Die! (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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