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| | | <snip> (...) I'd say more than 2/3. Almost all of the auctions I've been in as a buyer and a seller follow this pattern. (...) Remember that in a proxy bidding system such as eBay, the highest bid is defined as "just a little more" than the second (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | (...) I've been lurking on this thread but I have to jump in here. (...) It's very simple: Because people don't know what they're willing to pay. They think they're mad at the other bidder, but what they're actually mad at (without usually knowing (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Adam Yulish
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| | | | | | <snip> (...) I agree that [eBay's] system has more than a few loose hoses, but designed for the cashflow and glory of the designers and sellers? All the grumbling about eBay doesn't point to very much glory, and the cashflow would be higher if eBay (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Sure, look at how successful the whole thing is from Wall Street's point of view: eBay's stock has been trading in the $200-$300 range for the past two months. On the day of their IPO last November, several people became instant millionaires (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Adam Yulish
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| | | | | | | (...) Fair enough. :) Relatively few people receive that cashflow from eBay's operation/existence. Many more receive cashflow and/or save time by finding the items they've been looking for, so I don't consider eBay's money-making for its owners a (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, they have. I know of at least one commercial product produced to allow you to do just that and more. (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Is it sold by eBay? ;-) --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) If it is it isn't obvious. I forget the name of it now, but I will look for it and post it. It has a function that allows you to snipe, I do remember that. Oh, here it is. (URL) Unofficial listing of weekly US Lego Shop at Home phone specials (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, in a way it is. The sad thing is, I almost bought it a while back just because I liked the thought of having a little window open with all the auctions I was watching that is updated on a regular basis. The sniping function wouldn't be (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) But the idea with computerized sniping is you can fire off a low bid late enough in the game, that no one will be able to react in time (even another computer -- it won't be informed of the change soon enough). If the item is already bidded (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) designed for bastards ripping people off. Why would they not also get a warez version of the program? Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Well, I'm certainly no expert with the program, but I did use the trial version for a few days and it does make monitoring auctions more convenient. The trial version also doesn't allow you to snipe. As for a pirated version, I'm sure there is (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —James Brown
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| | | | | (...) been (...) a (...) bid (...) I know that. My point was two-fold. One was that the system encouraged waiting until the last minute to knock the other bidder out, instead of allowing him time to reconsider his 'proxy' - as in the example I (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Adam Yulish
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| | | | | | (...) I agree wholeheartedly with the "more honest" option, but I do so because it renders someone else's "dishonesty" ineffective. They can spend all the time and money they want. Against me, it is either enough or it isn't. No extra money or time (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Something to think about: even with proxy bidding, you will, over time, get lower totals on winning-bids in eBay auctions if you do not bid until the last second. Why? - Proxy bidding isn't perfect. - Not everyone uses proxy bidding properly. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: CFD: e-bay (aka ranting and raving) —Adam Yulish
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| | | | <snip> (...) I don't see the relevance of the first two, but I think both partss of the third are spot-on. However, I think the monetary difference is negligible. Adam bwappo@ee.net (26 years ago, 11-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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