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| | | <387CF961.42F012A7@c...anweb.net> <FoAIpx.I2u@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) HI James, Governments, corporations, charities, people, etc. will all (in general) take and use as much power (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —James Brown
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| | | | | (...) Yes, but in my understanding (which I'm willing to admit may be flawed) a Libertarian system would grant corporations much more power than they currently experience. James (URL) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | Jasper, (...) Can you name one corporation that has the power to burst into your home, arrest you and your family, take away your possessions, etc. I would love to know? Until then, the government has more power than *any* corporation. Oh yes, the (...) (24 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) You're harbouring the misconception that if it is illegal it won't happen. Jasper (24 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | (...) No, I think you give corporations too much credit in terms of their power, and you don't seem to care how much power the government has. I don't have to look to far in terms of "it is illegal it won't happen." The Clinton Administration has (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | (...) No, I think you give corporations too much credit in terms of their power, and you don't seem to care how much power the government has. I don't have to look to far in terms of "it is illegal it won't happen." The Clinton Administration has (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) Stop putting words into my mouth. (...) You mean it wasn't rhetorical? Besides, I did answer. Any big corporation has the power to do so. Just not legally. Jasper (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | (...) You do then, as well. (...) I asked how many companies do you know that did break into your house, etc. You said they have the power to, to which I disagree. You never answered the first question anyway, which is which companies do so? I know (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, there is the occaisional landlord. There are also the bail bondsmen, but they are in a way an agent of the government. (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Government Power vs. Corporate Power [Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | Frank & All, (...) I don't know how simple I can make this. Overall, if you compare the power of the government that can dramatically effect your life, which there are examples, and the power of any corporation (If they do illegal things, that is a (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Jeff Thompson
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| | | | | | | (...) The Kerr McGee corp running Karen Silkwood off the road and killing her for blowing the whistle on safety problems at their nuclear plant ... perhaps an example of, um, excessive liberties being taken by a company. -- jthompson@esker.com (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | (...) I hope whoever is responsible for that, in that company, gets tried for breaking the law. Breaking the law is never a excessive liberty, the exception being the Clinton administration, of course. Scott S. (24 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Law (was: Art) Debate (Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Two things: First, I think that there is a miscommunication here. You are saying that companies have little power compared to the government if they don't break the laws. Others are saying that by breaking the laws, companies have the power to (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Law (was: Art) Debate (Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | (...) I find this an exceedingly callous statement, on the surface. Explain further. (...) The disposable income of the US government isn't that high. (...) You are. The law just happens to be unconstitutional. Jasper (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Law (was: Art) Debate (Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh, I didn't mean it like that, I meant it like this: Where are we going from there? As a member (sort of) of the side (sort of) opposite (sort of) yours, I'm willing to accept that corporations have the power to hurt people inappropriately. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Law (was: Art) Debate (Was: [Re: Swearing?]) —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | (...) Ugh. Yes, if corporations break the law, they do hurt people. They should be prosecuted. The government prosecutes corporations, right? I agree with you that the US government has a tremendous amount of power because of money, etc. The (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?] —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) We don't? Seems to me we're well on the way there. Corporations are the "slightly clean" version of the Family, after all. Jasper (24 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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