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| | | --snip-- (...) I was going to say nothing in response to your response and I will leave out the rest of it but... I just can't believe that you seriously expect me to take the writings in Genesis as part of a logical argument. I really can't. I'm (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | (...) Convenient how you "missed these other points out." (...) You don't have to be Christian to believe the Old Testament. And you don't have to believe that it is a literal account of history to recognize that the books of the Bible contain (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Bible as a literal source? was Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | (...) Not convenience, I'd already (URL) I would>: "PS. And in the absence of any sort of addition to the argument from you I will let you have your last word and bow out. While trading insults with you is amusing it’s polite to leave it off Lugnet. (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bible as a literal source? was Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | | | (...) I don't see any timeline in that quotation that precludes "the beginning" from spanning a very, very long time. (...) It doesn't actually say there was no light anywhere, it only says that the earth was without form and in darkness. The (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bible as a literal source? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | (...) You obviously miss my point. I'm not arguing that my interpretation is the correct interpretation, merely that I can construct an interpretation of Genesis that disagrees with the facts as we know (insofar as we know anything) them. (...) If (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bible as a literal source? —Chris Phillips
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| | | | | | | | (...) Then perhaps we are more closely in agreement than I had realized. (...) Well now you are assuming that I literally believe the Genesis account of creation, which would be a stretch. Given that Western cultures still believed that the Earth (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Well, maybe if you're taking a totally uncritical look at it. As far as current scientific understanding goes, the process didn't unfold by having the Earth and seas and vegetation precede the formation of the Sun and Moon. Sure, we can blame (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | (...) That section of his post does reveal a lot about his (il)logic processes, though. Jeff (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Chris Phillips
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| | | | (...) Where I come from, it is a sign of critical thinking to be able to evaluate an idea on its own merits, regardless of the source. But I know that critical thinking is a dying art. Do cultural differences add nuance to the written/spoken word (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | (...) Where I come from, critical thinking requires actual thinking, not dogmatic obedience. Sadly, dogmatic obedience is not dying in this country. Citing mythos as fact and expecting to be taken seriously is not critical thinking. (...) To the (...) (18 years ago, 13-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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