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| | | (...) A single attack can make a rebellion if it is by a citizen of the country. I can't remember if any of the Sept 11 bombers were US citizens but if so I would argue it indeed was a part of a rebellion. Tim (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) It's pretty sketchy. You could define "rebellion" as a group of citizens who take action against the government. But does that action necessarily require that it's an armed action, or a physically destructive one? What if they were hacking in (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Sorry, Tim--I missed your post, or I would have responded earlier. DaveE has already offered good thoughts on this point, but I'd go in a slightly different direction. In my view, a rebellion necessarily consists of a viably large body of (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | (...) If most of them weren't US citizens then I agree with the latter part of this argument. With Terror tactics and WMDs (such as a Boeing 747) then a viable body of rebels doesn't have to be large. Were the hijackers US citizens by and large then (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Timothy P. Smith
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| | | | | (...) The 9/11 guys weren't US citizens (I think one or two were). But hasn't the UK had trouble with terrorism by citizens? (not the Ireland troubles, but the 21st century kind). Tim (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah. Most (if not all) of the Tube bombers and failed tube bombers were UK citizens. Many of them were even born here. I'd personally count that as rebellion. Tim (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Timothy P. Smith
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| | | | | | | (...) Agreed. So much for .debate! :-D Tim (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Hard to say, honestly. I've been giving this some more thought, and it seems to me that a necessary component of rebellion is a desire to break from the targeted nation (or break from some or all of its policies) without necessarily requiring (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | (...) The ostensible goal of Al Quadea is to create an international Islamic State by force. Since this would involve overturning the policies of nations and the acts of terror are (ostensibly) designed to create a situation in which this can happen (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) Yup. (...) Yes. And why I think Specter was being obtuse. (...) And not nearly enough "John's":-) JOHN (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) If that's true, then the appropriate course of action must be to err on the side of preserving liberty. Instead, in the fear-soaked aftermath of 9/11, we saw the Congress tripping over itself in its abdicate its Constitutional responsibility, (...) (18 years ago, 26-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em??? —John Neal
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| | | | (...) My sediments exactly;-) JOHN (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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