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Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
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Tue, 9 Aug 2005 21:33:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Samuel Morrison wrote:
   I have to disagree - horrible though it was, there was more to Nazism than just hate...

Adn does it really matter WHY millions were killed?

I’m not arguing that Nazism is only hate - but that is based on hate. And yes, it does matter, to me. The people who killed thousands fighting the Nazis do not bear the same responcibility as the those who killed innocents for no reason except the color of their skin or the religion.

My bad, I should have said murdered. Soviet murder vs. Nazi murder I don’t se as much different.
  
   I like your EB MOCs, Lenny, and I think that this one may have crossed the line in polite society, but I think some of the defenders here have a point. Why does a symbol make a MOC horrible while others embrace the same spirit in their MOCs?

You’re reading too much into the criticism. My criticism is very simple: The MOC is potentially deeply offensive, poorly designed, and unfunny. I think Richie should have posted on an adult only forum (like JLUG). But I am not calling for his post to be deleted, I am giving my opinion of what he should have done. That isn’t censorship, thats my free speech.

And I disagree - it’s raised a nice discussion, for one thing. This isn’t obsenity. Offensive to some, sure, but that is what life is all about. And the MOC isn’t advocating Nazism, either, just dealing with it in a humorous (though some say failed humor) light.



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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) You don't see a difference between a coordinated effort to complete destroy a race of people vs. a criminal justice system gone horribly wrong? Stalin had almost 30 years to kill roughly 20 million Russians - most of whom were killed in Gulags (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I'm not arguing that Nazism is only hate - but that is based on hate. And yes, it does matter, to me. The people who killed thousands fighting the Nazis do not bear the same responcibility as the those who killed innocents for no reason except (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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