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| | | (...) Of course they weren't--that's what makes the parable so good-- See Jesus says that the 'God' folk passed on helping the beat up sod in the gutter, but the Samaritan, without being a believer, was the only one who had the compassion to help (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) That's actually about the best argument for atheism that I've ever heard a non-atheist put forth. If we as individuals accept the responsibility of caring for the planet and for each other during our fleeting time here, then what more is (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) Well, I do usually concur with your assessments... I don't go "I'm contributing to this charity *because* I'm a Christian!" or "I'm helping this little old lady across the street *because* of my Christian values!" Much like, I suppose, you (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —John Neal
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| | | | (...) You should, or else Dave! is correct. (...) You should, or else Dave! is correct. (...) Not at all the same. I still don't have a satisfactory answer from atheists to the question "why do good?" (from a personal standpoint rather than some (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —David Koudys
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| | | | | (...) I don't agree at all. It's this 'do right 'cause you're a Christian' that disenfranchises others from seeing what is, I believe, true Christianity. I try to do good works because it is the right thing to do (more later). Whether that comes (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) If I contribute to a charitable cause, I do it because I have judged the charitable cause to merit my contribution and because I have determined that I am able to contribute. Honestly, that's as much introspection as I give the matter. (...) I (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) Because you won't be satisfied? John, you and I do good for the same reasons. Our genes tell us to. They tell us to because by telling us, they enabled us to build a society that protects us against the predators. Mutual beneficence is (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) Let me ask you this: If tomorrow you found out for 100% certain that God didn't exist, would you still do good things? Or would you breathe a sigh of releif and start raping babies? I think we do good because we want to. Now, you may think (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Pamela Hale
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| | | | | (...) Here's an answer for you: I "do good," as you put it, because I have spent time thinking about life, the universe, and my role in it and have decided based on my own observations that mean people suck. I don't believe in any god, but I do (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Why be 'good' without god (was Re: Worthlessness) —Richard Parsons
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| | | | | | (...) Damn straight. I like this. It more or less reflects me too. Based on my own meagre experience of life, I have found that there are some people I like and others I do not, some actions I like and others I do not, and some things I like to be (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Why be 'good' without god (was Re: Worthlessness) —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) So, are you saying that you do "good" because it makes you feeel good? (...) Yes, it would be helpful to get a working definition of what "good" is so that we can all be on the same page. For me, doing "good" is doing what I believe God wants (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | (...) LOL!!! Gotta love that reasoning!!! ROSCO (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Scott Lyttle
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| | | | | Well, My thoughts... The Wyld Stalyns got it right: "Be Excellent To Each Other!"...."Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" was ahead of it's time.. oh, geez...ok, realized that was a bad pun in itself... Ok, I might incite a religious riot after the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Worthlessness —Mike Rayhawk
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| | | | (...) Just about every time I've been completely disgusted by a post on Lugnet, it's been for this reason. "Or else Dave! is correct?" So many people around here turn everything into an us-vs-them. Somebody disagrees with your ideas, you could (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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