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Re: Costs and Benefits
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Date: 
Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:14:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:

> > The way I figure it, you should only be looking at an individual's consumption
> > and 'payback.'  I'll use what I consider pretty conservative figures so that the
> > fact that I'm just making numbers up won't paint a rosier picture than is
> > reasonable.  So assuming that many more Americans would go to college if it were
> > "free" we might get up to the point where the average American would attend for
> > three years.
> 
> That does not have to be the case.

Well, sure.  I wrote that I was making up the numbers.  What exactly do you
mean?

> > If we imagine that this costs $15K per year, then we have the
> > average American sucking $45K out of the system.
> 
> Don’t forget a means tested term-time subsistence grant.

What's that mean?

> > Golly!  I'd been imagining that it would be cheaper.  On the other hand, the
> > average American doesn't attend for anywhere near three years and it could cost
> > somewhat less than $15K per year.  If we drop it to two years at $12K per, the
> > taxpayer burden drops to $600 per year.
> 
> I'm really talking about 4 year degree courses. If we set a target of 50% of the
> population going to Uni, then the average would be two years.

Well, yeah, so you're agreeing with my number?

> > But, presumably, our GDP and spending
> > power would rise with a more educated populace.  Presumbably.
> 
> Two Points:
> How much extra taxable income do graduates earn?
> Would more educated Americans mean the USA would rely less on immigrants?

Right.  I don't know.  And I don't know how much it would change as the
university educated population increased.  I'm not sure I care about the
immigrant situation.  I'm not all about Americans over others.

Chris



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(...) Students get money for basics; food, accommodation, travel to Uni, etc. (...) I have no idea what the costs are in the USA… sorry! (...) An educated workforce makes investment more likely. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) That does not have to be the case. (...) Don’t forget a means tested term-time subsistence grant. (...) I'm really talking about 4 year degree courses. If we set a target of 50% of the population going to Uni, then the average would be two (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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