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| | | (...) Hey, don't get all reasonable on me now! I can cut through my verbosity and sum it up this way: 1. I dispute the assertion that verbal instruction is generally sufficient to steer a recalcitrant child away from ultimately self-damaging (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —David Koudys
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| | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) You leave my Canadian teets alone! <snip> (...) Dave K (20 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | (...) sufficient to (...) behavior is (...) I don't think Chris has ever said that. Now I may be shortcutting Chris's recent posts, but I know in the past that Chris has said that if a kid was about to run in front of a car, he would grab the kid. (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) Agreed. Once the child has become recalcitrant, simple, calm reason is often a waste. I like to look at the child's recalcitrance the same way I look at crime, though, and try to prevent it rather than merely responding. A healthy dose of Good (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) I went to bed thinking about this last night. I think I've overstated my agreement. Do you think the notion of personal responsibility (as a valuable more) is "at its essence arbitrary?" I am led to my parent/child debt structure by the twin (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Nuts to that. I have you on record agreeing with me, so that's the end of it! 8^P (...) Not personal responsibility, but the particular framing of the parent/child contract. Larry gave a better alternative breakdown than I provided, so I'll (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | What follows is not my best writing... I used a lot of that up today working on deliverables for my client and for BrickFest PDX. But it's a great topic and I wanted to take one more swing before I went to bed... (...) I know Chris didn't completely (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) It is improbable, but not impossible. Surely, the key must then be that you should have the respect of your kids before you encounter your extreme life-or-death scenario? We don’t share the same culture or kids, but for me beating children is (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Corporal punishment (was rah rah, canada! —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | Larry, I did think that Nik was a courteous young man. And I don't mean to suggest that you can not get acceptable, even good, results in turning a child into an adult with corporal punishment as a tool. I was spanked. I'm OK. But I do question how (...) (20 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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