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Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:02:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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Guys like Shrub would nuke people in the U.S. if such a preemptive strike
where necessary to maintain political power -- and I dont really mean
Shrub, I mean the guys standing all around him and even more particularly
the ones standing in the shadows (the ones whose names are barely known and
only whispered even when they are known).
-- Hop-Frog
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There it is. Koresh wannabe. Were done.
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Koresh wannabe ??? Oh, get over yourself.
Koresh was innocent of anything except bad judgement in thinking that he and his
followers could peaceably coexist in the local community, and bad judgement in
thinking that because he had good relations with the local law enforcement and
because he minded his own business, that was enough to protect him from the
greater evil afoot in the nation.
He was guilty, however, of underestimating the evil of the BATF and of the
Attorney General of the time. (1) THEY went in, guns blazing, with a secret
warrant that didnt actually specify anything, and then maneuvered to massacre
the innocents after demonstrating there was no way that the Davidians were going
to get a fair trial.
When you throw around terms like Koresh wannabe, you demonstrate that you lack
a grasp of how bad things actually are down here. Successive administrations
have run amuck to greater and greater extents, aided and abetted by people like
you who mean well, but apparently dont think for themselves very well, and
dont understand that freedom isnt free.
I dont normally speak up in defense of Marchetti, but from what Ive seen in
this long (2) thread he gets the point of what the US is supposed to be about,
gets the point of what Jefferson and the other fathers were on about, and gets
the point of the Bill of Rights... and you dont. Worse, you disparage it all as
meaningless, oldfashioned, no longer relevant, and illogical. What a shame.
I may think Richards specific arguments about Halliburton et al are not where
the big problems in the country lie, and I may even laugh at some of his
specific conspiracy theories, but hes more of a patriot(3) and more of a
freedom lover than you are.
By far.
1 - to think I used to think Reno was the worst AG ever, and it couldnt get
worse. I was half right... She was, at the time. I was also half wrong...
Ashcroft is worse, far worse.
2 - and rehashed... everything Ive seen here so far has been said before, over
and over, in the past...
3 - neglecting that you dont live in the US... but I would argue that you are
less of a Canadian patriot than you think.
++Lar
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