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Re: The French Have Gone Too Far
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Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:17:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
John:

I honestly think you may be afflicted by a kind of psychosis.

Your bigotry betrays you...

You seem to believe that the U.S.' actions in the world should have no
repercussions, whereas I am certain that people around the globe are
responding to us with extreme negativity.

Because of their *own* self-interest.  They don't give a rat's patootie about
the Iraqi people.  What say we let the people of Iraq decide their own destiny.

Those people may find our claimed
motives for INVADING Iraq more than suspicious, I know I do.  They may
respond to our nakedly aggressive act in kind, as people often do.  We
shove, they shove right back.

Or we liberate them, and create a valuable ally (Germany, Japan)

If you were to strike me, I can guarantee you payback plus interest.

No, you can't.

What world do you live in where everything is the fault of someone else and
introspection is worthless?  To you it's just not possible that we, the
U.S., are causing others misery and that our victims may expect to get a
piece of us before they expire.  That's basically a fact to me.

Are we causing the misery in Iraq right now?  You could say yes, but then, if
Saddam had chosen exile, then we wouldn't be doing what we're doing.  I am
confident that, in the long run (1000 mile stare, remember?) this will be seen
as a Good Thing (tm).

We are now a target in a way we were not before.


Everyone seems to forget that Bin Laden tried to blow up the WTC before under
Clinton.  We have been a target, if not for pure propaganda's sake, for a
loooong time.

Given the opportunity I would hide behind you during a terrorist bombing,
using you as my shield.  It is you and yours with your foolish aggression
that will bring more terror to these shores.  It seems fitting to me that
you should have to pay for it.  Instead, reality will lend its own
perversity and doubtless bring suffering to the peace-loving americans for
the faults of brainless idiots like yourself and Shrub.

Isn't that special.

I want to keep the peace.  I am not sure you even understand what that means.

I know you don't, Neville.  Since I know how fond you are of quotations, this
well-used one is for you:
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The parallels to Hitler in the thirties and Saddam today are striking.  In your
stubborn attempt to cling to peace, you will destroy the very thing you seek to
preserve.

The dirty little secret is that peace through strength works.  America's best
defense against threats to her security is the knowledge by her enemies,
especially enemies that are culturally 5 centuries behind the times, that
aggression against her *will* result in massive retaliation.  Only when they
see that we have lost our stomach to vigorously defend our freedom and liberty
will they dare attack.

The greatest threat to our security is appeasement and complacency.  *We* know
what's best for America-- not the UN, or the French, or Germans, or the rest of
the world combined.

There is a lot more I could say, but I have reached the end of my desire to
carry on this rather fruitless discussion.  As a debater, Richard, you are
without class, and I shall not be engaging you again.  *I* forgot the past and
I was doomed to repeated it:-p

In closing (and when I say closing, I mean it) I wish to say that I am very
proud to have Britain and Australia (and Denmark!) among others as our allies.
Tony Blair has proven to me to be quite a remarkable leader, and I am very
grateful for his steadfast support.  I honestly believe that this conflict will
end with many good things coming from it, and those who died for the cause of
freedom will not have died in vain.  We owe a debt of supreme gratitude to them
for their ultimate sacrifice so that we may remain free.

God Bless America and Her Allies

JOHN



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  Re: The French Have Gone Too Far
 
(...) Sounds fair to me. ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The French Have Gone Too Far
 
John: I honestly think you may be afflicted by a kind of psychosis. You seem to believe that the U.S.' actions in the world should have no repercussions, whereas I am certain that people around the globe are responding to us with extreme negativity. (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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