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(...) Allow me to repeat this yet again. The percentage of votes that Gore supposedly won the nation wide popular vote by was less than the percentage of votes bush won in Florida by. Both numbers are well within the margin of error. However the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike: A lot of us believe the election was rigged in Florida by thousands of votes months before the election took place. (URL) am no friend to Gore or to his psycho wife Tipper -- I just want to know that we had an honest election, and we did not. (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) for their actions but probably won't. (...) For the record, I voted for Bush Jr. simply because I felt he was the least unquaified at the time. Gore just plain scared me, whereas Bush simply came off as stupid. -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, who knows? I think it bears far greater investigation but our press is asleep at the wheel. I can't even watch CNN anymore, and is Fox is a bloody joke. There's still some hard-hitting stuff on the web, but you have to dig a little -- (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder how well that would really work, or do you mean I should have my own generator for the winter months when solar is unlikely to provide the power I need. I think electric plants are far more efficient than a generator could be (and of (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, but that's just a recount of the accepted votes, and it doesn't factor in the irregularities in ballot format, the use of obsolete machines in democrat-friendly districts, the unlawful removal of legal voters from the voting registries, (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In each case I advocated shooting someone they either would have or did cause physical harm or were violating basic freedoms. Disagreeing with someone (...) Politicians only went to washington when there was actually something that needed (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Care to finish that thought? But even without the finish I can take issue with your point. You're advocating the preemptive murder of people whom you perceive to violate your basic freedoms, am I right? Doesn't that sound a trifle insane to (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can vouch for the disparagement of solar power in CA where there is bill either under consideration or that has been passed that allows PG&E to "tax" an individual's non-use of the utility when that individual is using alternative energy (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, that *is* pretty lame. By that logic, they could charge dead people for their non-use of food, air, and water. Dave! (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Estate taxes? =) -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Zing! Good one! JOHN (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) fire? (...) is not grounds for shooting them. (How did that happen?) (...) a (...) there (...) You misunderstand due to me not being more clear in that post. She was attacked by 7 different people. After the first 4 she bought a gun which was (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good modern photovoltaics pay for themselves in ~13 years and last ~20 years. Because they're modular, you can scale your installation easily to provide far in excess of the power you need. Or am I misunderstanding your meaning? (...) You just (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not in Scotland; here photovoltaics & wind power are predictably unpredictable. We are taking a centralised broad-spectrum approach to renewables: hydro, biomas, wind and marine current power. Right now about 10% of our power needs come from (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before someone points out my error, I should have describe the woman's actions as "second degree murder" rather than "third degree murder." I'm reluctant to address the specifics of your story in case further details should be revealed as we (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, whole countries have been invaded [allegedly] on that basis. :-\ Scott A (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch! Down goes Fraser! He'll be reeling after that hit! Dave K (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have to say, I could not agree more with this point. Searching for legal loopholes to justify highly questionable in/actions is a major annoyance to me. The UK's use of cluster bombs in Iraq [anti-personnel bombs in all but name] is an (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) attacked (...) registered (...) be (...) Oh trust me, if I could find a link I would post it. It was in the local paper about 2 or 3 years ago. I can not claim to remember everything and if you want to analyze it I don't blame you one bit. I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The most damning part of this tale isn't given; was the woman sentenced or acquitted? (...) I appreciate your candor and your understanding of my skepticism. I still have trouble believing that the case could have been gagged or swept under (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) or (...) she (...) neccessary (...) I don't remember for sure but I don't think she was acquitted. (...) It has happened before. You won't find this in any paper... I know a women who's 70something year old neigbor was sentenced to 25 years in (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What had been a primarily theoretical debate for Mike and me has turned into policy in the great state of Florida: (URL) the kicker--now you can shoot someone in the street just because you *feel* threatened! So when that apparently middle (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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