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  Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) Time to wrap this up. This whole thing started because you took me to task when I equated the Palestinians with the PLO. I still say that if the Palestinians continue to support PLO terrorists, they are as culpable as terrorists themselves. If (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
John, this is a rather unique record of the thread. For the record, I did not simply say I was "sympathetic with the Palestinians". I, in fact, said: "Although I do support the right of self defence, I am fundamentally a pacifist in nature. I (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) (Sorry about the butchered pasting): You: mean that I oppose the actions of both "PLO terrorists" and the Israeli > state. My views on human rights and international law, together with my > understanding of recent middle-east history, leads me (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) I'm sure Israel is gratful for your support. ;) (...) Life must be so simple in your (little) black & white world! Scott A (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) I happen to agree with this viewpoint.It's nice and tidy and has a nice absolute finality to it. No equivocating. But it has a big problem. It opens one up to questioning one's own motives. People who want to assail one's position will (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) Isn't that merely deflection; skirting the issue at hand? I talk about Palestininan terrorism, and they shift the focus to *my* supposed support of terrorism. How is that germane? Merely as an attempt to discredit me as a hypocrite? (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) Oh ya, I agree. But it's what you're up against here in this newsgroup. Until you can make this case (at the meta level), you're stuck. And no one here has been at all effective at making that case in the past. c.f. what happened to me when I (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) Life must be so deep and profound in your (intellectual) gray one. -John (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) hmm. That explains the rain today ;) Scott A Rain: (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) John, You said: "Anyone who supports the actions of terrorists is just as culpable as the terrorists themselves." I demonstrated that your tax dollars and your countrymen support "terror". I also shattered you allusion that Israel is a nation (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) Edinburgh. -John (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cease fire (was: Re: Peace in the Mid-East?)
 
(...) That's odd, it’s my understanding that it is against the law to fund raise for the IRA in the USA... I may be wrong(?). By "repressive governments", do you include those who imprison suspects without trial? Interestingly, the UK will not hand (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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