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| | | Now that Larry has defined the "True meaning of Christmas," I thought I would. Christmas, like it or not folks, is a CHRISTIAN holiday. It exists because Christ is the savior and this is the day we celebrate his birth. We don't celebrate Christmas (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | People have been celebrating winter solstice since well before the start of Judaeism, much less Christianity. The early expropriation of that holiday by the Christian church was one of the greatest marketing ploys of the first millenium. I'm happy (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | (...) Karl Marx. Shocking, to here him quoted by such an anti-communist!!!! (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Even a stopped clock is right once or twice (1) a day. 1 - 24 or 12 hour clock, depending (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —George Sikora
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| | | | | I guess that I have to speak up for Steve on this one..... Steve thanks for speaking out, you are not alone on the RTL ........ Jesus, he is the reason for the season......... George Sikora Steve Berry wrote in message ... (...) would. (...) in (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | Steve Berry wrote in message ... (...) would. (...) in (...) Yes, it must have been originated as you mentioned, but today almost whole world celebrates it and give gifts to their firedns, and make holiday. aand this occurs regardles from any (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Linc Smith
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| | | | | | | Selçuk wrote in message ... (...) [stating] I'm not (...) I am glad I waded through all soap-box crapola... A glimmer of clear thought that cuts to the point, and stays on topic (1). 1. I guess things don't really need to stay on topic, in here of (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | (...) Anthropological analysis, by someone who might be indifferent to the religions of the past societies they were studying, would possibly conclude that both Christianity and Islam were merely evolutionary mutations of Judaism, or a schism based (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Jim Baker
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| | | | | Also sprach Steve Berry: : Christmas, like it or not folks, is a CHRISTIAN holiday. It exists because : Christ is the savior and this is the day we celebrate his birth. We don't : celebrate Christmas because of decorated trees, lights or over-weight (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) I don't mention this to be overly agumentative, but the celebration(s) that were common during the Christmas-time of year were around long before Christ. While there were several festivals during the latter half of December in Rome, focusing (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | (...) *declining to go into religious debates* Might I just add that historically, Sanata Claus, or rather Saint Nicholas, doesn't go with Christmas? His day is celebrated on 5 december, the day before the anniversary of his death. Please keep him (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | True meaning assertions? (was Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Oh, just as a clarification here, please, I dispute that I did any such thing. This whole brawl started because I, in passing, but I contend very much in context for my append, mentioned that "I celebrate Christmas because it's fun, not (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: True meaning assertions? Mischaracterization noted —Steve Berry
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| | | | (...) You are right, I mischaracterized your "The meaning of Christmas" reply. That was wrong, irrational and inaccurate of me to do so. I apologize. Now, I'll keep my word and not say another word on this subject. Steve Berry (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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