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Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
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Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:30:25 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
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> > I'm curious if the "veg" movement and libertarianism are mutually
> > exclusive? I believe you said in a previous thread that you tried to
> > switch your diet once, so I don't think so... just wondering.
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> I don't know enough about the "veg" movement (if it is indeed monolithic,
> which I doubt) to say for sure. I'll say this much about my own personal
> feelings on the matter, which are partly derived from first principles (but
> not completely, they're also partly emotional)
no definately not monolithic... we come in all shapes and sizes... :)
> - people ought to be free to not eat meat if they so choose. They should not
> be prevented from choosing to buy products that are meat free, if suppliers
> are willing to provide them
As an aside, if we as consumers wanted to have full disclosure on the
ingredients of a product and/or the source of those ingredients, should
the food producers provide it?
> - people ought to be fre to eat meat if they so choose. They should not be
> prevented from choosing to buy products that contain animal products if
> suppliers are willing to provide them, with the proviso that the suppliers
> ought to be required to produce the products without cruelty or unnecessary
> suffering to the animals
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> - That is, choosing to eat or not eat meat is a personal decision. There
> ought not to be laws preventing or requiring it.
agreed.
> So, if some component of the "veg" movement wants to see meat banned for
> everyone, I would tend to oppose that component. If some component of the
> national beefmen's association wants to see everyone required to eat beef
> once a week I would tend to oppose that component.
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> But I don't think I am personally opposed to the "veg" movement as a whole
> because there ain't no such thing. And I don't see choosing to not eat meat
> as incompatible with libertarianism, which is, after all, fundamentally
> about making one's own choices and dealing with the consequences.
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> Helps?
Yes- it's pretty much what I thought. I thought it was an interesting
quote from McViegh (even if he is a mass murderer- so are the CEOs of
Shell, Chevron or Phillip Morris for that matter).
-chris
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| (...) I subscribe to Consumer Reports and I read it (ahem) religiously. More information is good. I tend to favor buying products that have more information on them. I think food labels ought to be accurate and complete. Any producer that puts a (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I don't know enough about the "veg" movement (if it is indeed monolithic, which I doubt) to say for sure. I'll say this much about my own personal feelings on the matter, which are partly derived from first principles (but not completely, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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