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Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
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Date: 
Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:11:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:

I'm curious if the "veg" movement and libertarianism are mutually
exclusive?  I believe you said in a previous thread that you tried to
switch your diet once, so I don't think so...  just wondering.

I don't know enough about the "veg" movement (if it is indeed monolithic,
which I doubt) to say for sure. I'll say this much about my own personal
feelings on the matter, which are partly derived from first principles (but
not completely, they're also partly emotional)

- people ought to be free to not eat meat if they so choose. They should not
be prevented from choosing to buy products that are meat free, if suppliers
are willing to provide them

- people ought to be fre to eat meat if they so choose. They should not be
prevented from choosing to buy products that contain animal products if
suppliers are willing to provide them, with the proviso that the suppliers
ought to be required to produce the products without cruelty or unnecessary
suffering to the animals

- That is, choosing to eat or not eat meat is a personal decision. There
ought not to be laws preventing or requiring it.

So, if some component of the "veg" movement wants to see meat banned for
everyone, I would tend to oppose that component. If some component of the
national beefmen's association wants to see everyone required to eat beef
once a week I would tend to oppose that component.

But I don't think I am personally opposed to the "veg" movement as a whole
because there ain't no such thing. And I don't see choosing to not eat meat
as incompatible with libertarianism, which is, after all, fundamentally
about making one's own choices and dealing with the consequences.

Helps?

++Lar



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  Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
 
(...) no definately not monolithic... we come in all shapes and sizes... :) (...) As an aside, if we as consumers wanted to have full disclosure on the ingredients of a product and/or the source of those ingredients, should the food producers (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
 
(...) Just curious on this last bit. One thing I've struggled with some is where it is appropriate for the law to step in. How much should the law step in to prevent animal cruelty, and how do we chose that line. This type of dilema strikes me as (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: McViegh is no Libertarian
 
(...) that's a good policy.... (...) I'm curious if the "veg" movement and libertarianism are mutually exclusive? I believe you said in a previous thread that you tried to switch your diet once, so I don't think so... just wondering. -chris (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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