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| | | The following appears in the July 2001 issue of Harper's Magazine on page 20. It's McViegh's response to a guy from PETA who asked McViegh to make a political statement by having a vegan last meal. I thought it would be interesting to post here in (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: McViegh, Libertarian, and Vegans (aka What a Party!) —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | Wow! Truly a surrealistic reading. Hard to agree with the words of a mass-murderer but, objectively speaking, there were some interesting points brought up. Thanks, Chris. Dan (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | McViegh is no Libertarian —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | Snipping all but one statement away to make a key point. (...) Judge outcomes not statements... This creature is no more libertarian than Scott Arthur is. Maybe he forgot the pledge he signed about not initiating the use of force? Maybe he didn't (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Christopher Tracey
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| | | | | (...) that's a good policy.... (...) I'm curious if the "veg" movement and libertarianism are mutually exclusive? I believe you said in a previous thread that you tried to switch your diet once, so I don't think so... just wondering. -chris (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I don't know enough about the "veg" movement (if it is indeed monolithic, which I doubt) to say for sure. I'll say this much about my own personal feelings on the matter, which are partly derived from first principles (but not completely, (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Christopher Tracey
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| | | | | | | (...) no definately not monolithic... we come in all shapes and sizes... :) (...) As an aside, if we as consumers wanted to have full disclosure on the ingredients of a product and/or the source of those ingredients, should the food producers (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) I subscribe to Consumer Reports and I read it (ahem) religiously. More information is good. I tend to favor buying products that have more information on them. I think food labels ought to be accurate and complete. Any producer that puts a (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Just curious on this last bit. One thing I've struggled with some is where it is appropriate for the law to step in. How much should the law step in to prevent animal cruelty, and how do we chose that line. This type of dilema strikes me as (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I honestly don't know the answer to this one. Animals don't have rights the way we do but I still don't think that being cruel to animals is OK. I have heard claims the market can take care of most of it if a little publicity is used... But (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | (...) Maybe you should note the lack of capitalization in the word libertarian. As there is wide variety within the LP, there is even wider variety in the stances of those who could reasonably call themselves 'libertarian.' Thomas Jefferson approved (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: McViegh is no Libertarian —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) You assume I am not one? :-) (...) Do not have to sign a pledge to be a libertarian? (...) Can you be sure of that? How so? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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