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    A Jeffers factoid or two —Larry Pieniazek
   Vermont now has 2 out of 3 of their national level representatives as "independents" since Bernie Sanders is badged that way (although he ran as a socialist). This is the From IBD: "[T]he most underappreciated political phenomenon of the last two (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) That should read "This is the most for any state, absolutely or proportionately". Sorry! ++Lar (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Frank Filz
   (...) Our paper had an editorial yesterday which lambasted Jeffers for doing this. The author felt that it was important for the Rebublican party to have liberals and the Democratic party to have conservatives, to the point that independants weaken (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) They are saying that there ought to be a difference between the parties? What a novel idea! :-) (...) It's a chicken or egg problem, I suspect. And the dirty politics internal to the LP don't help matters either. (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Frank Filz
   (...) No, the impression I got was that the author preferred the Demopublican Party. Frank (23 years ago, 28-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Sigh. Sorry for reading that too quickly the first time and getting all excited over nothing... Ho hum, more of the same. I think there should be only two car companies, GM and Ford, and that they ought to share all their engineering and (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Scott Arthur
   I hear what you are saying Larry. I few months ago I would have agreed. However, now that Bush is in power I am not so sure. Events last week show that perheps there is a difference between the the big 2: (URL) may well have saved the US $60bn tax (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Maggie Cambron
   (...) It's funny how around election time the differences were minimized, but once Bush was safely ensconced in the White House he felt free to push his right wing agenda. On the whole I think it is true that because of the realities of getting (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Dave Schuler
   (...) An undeniable truth about this, though, is that the Democratic Party is more likely to court moderate, center-leaning republicans than it is to try to embrace the far-left fringe. Another unfortunate truth is that a vote for Nader was very (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: A Jeffers factoid or two —Maggie Cambron
   (...) Yes, and since there are a lot more voters in the center, in some ways I can't blame the Democrats for choosing to court them, pragmatist that I am. (...) Yes also, and lest you think that all Greens voted for Nader in November, some of the (...) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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