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Still my point is your jumping in a debate with no knowledge of what is happing. You do not have a history of being a member of Michlug and having to deal with issues, which I’m referring to. So you’re starting a debate out of ignorance. THIS IS NOT (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then you undeniably don't realize what I'm debating, either. Once again, I couldn't care less about MICHLUG per se; I'm discussing the problem of implicit endorsement by a club, not all of whose members share the same attitudes, interests, or (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Okay Dave, Now let’s talk about freedom. Clubs in the United States are FREE to do what they wish. If the club is a private club then it should be FREE to endorse what ever it chooses. If the club wants to reject members it has every right to do so. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is right. However, I have seen at least 3 people post saying that they are not 100% about MichLUG _as a club_ doing this show. This is not limiting your options, go form Mich_Cath_LUG if you really want to, that would acchive the same (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am trying to let this all slide by, because, by my read of the traffic in .michlug, there is a consensus among the MICHLUG members that have spoken up on the specific issue. That consensus is exactly what I hoped it would be... It is not (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *Now* we're getting somewhere, and you may be surprised to learn that on this point you and I are in complete agreement! A non-guvmint-funded club is absolutely free to accept or reject members as it sees fit; it can refuse membership on basis (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I will apologize once more to you Larry. I didn’t realize you were voicing your opinion about this. I took it as ordering the club to do something. Some how I wish we could vote on whether or not we should use the Michlug “logo”. But before we (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This time your apology is indeed appropriate and I accept it, thank you. I'd prefer to let this go now. (...) So far our club has operated on consensus rather than formal structure. That seems to work (and seems to be the preference of the (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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All right informal is fine with me. I’m glad this is coming to an end. I would like to thank everyone for they’re patience in this matter. I defiantly agree to keep this informal in order to keep the club together. I also thank everyone who is still (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James, the point has been all messed up. My point was that I thought Larry was trying to dictate what the cub can or cannot do. I WAS NOT debating on the use of the Michlug “logo”. I have said many times that I don’t care if the “logo” is there or (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd disagree with that one...the reason why I moved it to .debate was to take it out of being a single club issue. The fact is that _all_ clubs have the same potential problem, and as such, I felt it belonged outside of .michlug, and in (...) (23 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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