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| | | (...) 6000 civilians? You are sure right? And systematically?..Wow..You enlightened me..:-) Doc knows my country better than me..:-) I know Turkey has the worst kind of scum as a government for decades but only one thing that I'm sure of exists, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) See: (URL) counts 4500 civilian deaths. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) You're referring to this bit, I trust: "Both sides were responsible for human rights abuses during the conflict, in which an estimated 4,500 civilians were killed, around 3,000 settlements evacuated or burned down and up to three million (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) One liner, huh? It says 4500 yes. "Background Armed conflict between Turkish security forces and the PKK has continued since 1984 in the southeast of Turkey, which is mainly inhabited by Kurds. Both sides were responsible for human rights (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | You appear to view human rights a luxury which is great if it can be afforded economically. I view them as being rather more fundamental than that. As I said before, Turkey will not get in the EU until it gets itself in order. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) You are completely clueless again. I neither said nor mean anything like that. All I tried to explain is was you are not defending human rights, you are just musterbating. Continue, though. It is quite relieving I believe. And for the EU issue (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) I believe I understand the differnce between defending human rights & and masterbation. (...) You are quite wrong. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) I still didn't get this impression, though. (...) So, seeing that you tend to prefer simple two-three word answers instead of making a point, could you able to explain two simple questions as How and Why? Especially, when and if EU politicians (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) Then perhaps it is you who does not understand the difference (...) Turkey would have to bring its legislation in line with the EU. I read a poll yesterday in the Guardian which said Turkey was the nation which was least likely to join. (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) Don't need to read it I already know it. So, could you please reread my post and several other previous ones? I ALREADY said that Turkey is not wanted. I already said that I BELIEVE PUTTING TURKEY IN IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY EUROPEAN COUNTRY RIGHT (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) That is your opinion. (...) Yes. (...) If Turkey's legislation is not in line with the EU, Joe could take Turkey to court. Read the papers, it happens to EU members when they do not implement legislation. (...) Banning the use use by UK forces (...) (23 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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