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  Re: Essential nature of mankind
 
(...) Simple question: Was the Vatican a political and economic power during the conquest of the Americas? You know the answer. (...) You are inferring more than what I wrote. The fact remains that Christianity came down like an iron fist on the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"
 
(...) Okay, I think I follow you here: If you mean to say that Sagan was correctly quoted in initially using the phrase "billions and billions," then that is false. If you mean that Sagan later said "billions and billions" after the fact of being (...) (24 years ago, 5-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Alien races
 
(...) *sings* "We'll make great pets, we'll make great pets!" :^D ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essential nature of mankind
 
(...) Were I in the debate, that'd be exactly my point :) 'Course then we'd be on to defining morality which is my little pet topic, so I'd better steer clear :) (...) By my book, not *necessarily*, though I would argue that it probably was indeed (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essential nature of mankind
 
(...) Daniel: In the spirit of avoiding sweeping generalizations that due a disservice to one's arguments, I believe that your statements above need clarification. I'll not excuse the atrocities committed in the name of religion, but a great deal (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) I minored in Geology, so most of my knowledge on the subject came from hardcore geology texts. You might want to look in used book stores for the Time-Life series on Geology. Not up-to-date, I'd imagine, but they are far more involved than an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essential nature of mankind
 
(...) Don't you agree, however, that's a broad assumption based on an even more broad definition of sin? Keep in mind that sin is relative to a culture, not a hard and fast rule to all cultures and creatures. Eating pork is a sin for Hebrews and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) Oh, so it's just like computer programming! :-, (...) Got it, thanks for the example. (...) I've done this, at least with World Book (I read this thoroughly when I was youger :-) and Encarta (blech) and a couple of other brands. They just (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"
 
(...) Please reconcile what you just admited he said with what I said. :-) Bruce (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"
 
(...) Sorry, not true. Sagan was misquoted and that's just a plain fact. The only time he actually said "billions and billions" was after the misquote became a trademark (not what Sagan wanted, but what the hell) and he would say it at conferences (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) This is a rather large subject that I could only cover here in the briefest possible manner. In part, a number of techniques may be combined as double-checks: Known decay rates of radiactivity - Carbon-14 is the best known but there are a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) Bruce (or anyone else, really :-), I have a question related to this, it's something I've pondered on but no teacher I've had could answer to my satisfaction, and it's one that I am honestly curious about and will welcome any answer that I can (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) Basic bad science. Unwarranted extrapolation of evidence over a very brief period. It's kind of like watching the tide going out, walking away, and declaring the seas will dry up in a year, without any understanding of the ocean's (or sun's) (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Alien races
 
(...) Indeed. I wish that I could remember the date, but I have a Scientific American that deals with the topic of alien contact, and how it may be to our peril if and when it happens. If the predator/prey relationship is universal, then we may be a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Alien races
 
(...) Ryan: I don't know that I should weigh in on this issue, but here goes: I also am a Christian. I consider myself orthodox insofar as orthodox is not solely an institution of past precedent, but an on-going function of the body of believers to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) Well, you've pointed out the two big "ifs" in that reasoning. There is no evidence that the shrinkage of the sun is linear, is one-directional, or is constant over time, so such reasoning isn't really useful for deducing the behavior of the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Science and beliefs (was Re: Alien races)
 
(...) I'm sorry, Selçuk, but I don't understand what exactly you are asking. Could you please rephrase it? BTW, I'm a seventeen-year-old college student. Thanks, --Ryan (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Geology from Outer Space
 
(...) agrees (...) Studies done by astronomer John Eddy and mathematician Aram Boornazian in the 1970's proved that the sun is shrinking. They reported that the sun is shrinking at a rate of ten miles (16 km) per year. (Eddy, J. A. and Boornazian, (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Essential nature of mankind
 
(...) When Adam sinned, He incurred the punishment for sin: "in the day that you eat from it [the forbidden tree] you shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17). Adam did not drop dead then, but the biological tendency to die started working and nine hundred (...) (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"
 
(...) I was exaggerating for effect, of course. But yes, he did say billions and billions on occasion. Bruce (24 years ago, 4-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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