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  Re: Credibility... (Was: Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!"))
 
(...) You went to RPI? When? -Erik ECSE '94 (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) Something else I find interesting is that literal creationism also seems to be almost solely the preserve of inhabitants of the US, at least from where I'm standing. The only person I've ever come across in person in the UK who professed a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) (just picking a nit) I disagree... in my experience most christians only hold that God is fundamentally unexplainable. Creation and everything are currently unexplained, and may well be unexplainable, but that's not going to stop us from (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) I have to admit, I find this a rather curious point. I know of no religion where there god must prove its/his/her self worthy of the worship of the individual. Further, I believe that if an entity, whatever it is, were able to create the whole (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) Why? So you could avoid this point? "If you fault my system for not explaining the origin of the universe, why then, I fault yours for not explaining the origin of your god. No better no worse, explanation wise. A draw." I'd rather see you (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) Thanks for summarizing, Dave!. I find Jon and Tim's references hard slogging for the most part, since they're obviously written for uncritical thinkers. They tend to be a tough read for anyone else. Of course, I personally have to disagree (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I've said enough...
 
(Note: I'm not debating in this post) (...) Well you're sort of right and sort of not. My problem with this particular debate is my lack of debate experience coupled with my lack of scientific training. To be truthful, however, I have studied the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Hubris
 
(...) I'm extremely proud of my hubris. Dave! (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) :-) I think we are - however, having read many ancient myths, I am ever cautious of hubris ;-) Jennifer Clark (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) Ah, but it does. You're a Bricksmith, and Technic fans everywhere are saving their pennies and salivating in anticipation of the release of your first kit. And if *that* isn't an significant effect on the universe, maybe we're not in the same (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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