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(...) The changes were brought about by initiatives begun during the Koch and Dinkins administrations - Rudy is just taking credit for it all. FYI - I like D infinitely better than R, but that's another subject (and if you really want to talk nasty (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What does "well regulated" mean, in the context of the Second Amendment? Seriously. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Steve (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Something I'd like to add is that I recently read some historical accounts of April 19, 1775 (British march on Concord, Paul Revere, shot heard round the world and all that). Almost all of the colonial casualties that day were civilians (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why are we in this NG then? I can't debate either statement :-) Duane (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Plus, he makes really really really cool Castle sets. (...) Sure, they're evil. But... Why is everyone scrambling to go see Star Wars? Why is everyone scrambling to buy the toys? To see the makeup jobs? To explore brave new possibilities for (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. I think the lack of feeling/being responsible for one's actions is a major problem in our society. A second problem is civil lawsuits following innocent verdicts in criminal trials. Steve (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *LOL* Larry, you do have a way with words (...) I do agree with you on the TLG reference though. Duane (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Discharging a projectile is not the same as to kill. If that were true, I could be arrested just for vomiting. My point was that guns were designed to kill by shooting at the intended victim (animal, vegitable, or mineral). I asked if you (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nitpick: You got the wording slightly wrong (which can make a world of difference if you start analyzing it) "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right, that's why I didn't either. Wish the other side had brought it up first. <grin> (1) It's true, though. I worked it in via the Custer reference. Tyrants disarm populations. That's what they do. If you are living somewhere that is trying (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Self selected. By the criteria of being able to afford it. To whatever extent it takes. (personally I want star trek stunners too, and I'd put up some VC to get them if I had any) (...) Check yours. The reduction in violent crimes seems mostly (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The LP had a pretty good PR release recently. Paraphrasing... suppose other amendments were as watered down as the 2nd? Each of these is a parallel to a existing law that regulates the acquisition or ownership of guns. Fortunately, each is currently (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why does it matter? The first half of it is merely a justification for the second which is direction on what rights are granted to (actually affirmed for) whom. (...) No. (...) That's right, they didn't want to limit it to any particular kind (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying the to discharge a projectile is the same as to kill? My ruger has discharged many projectiles, but probably never killed...I bought it new. But, for the sake of the argument, I believe that there are collectible firearms that (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know, I don't get that. I've seen lots of newsgroups explode into US v. Canada or US v. UK debates, and its always so silly. Ultimately, you get a tiny little say in what goes on in your government and I get a tiny little say in mine, but (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was about to seriously flame you, but then I figured that you were being sarcastic. ...You were being sarcastic, weren't you? Duane (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give me one example of a fire arm that was produced, but never intened to discharge a projectile (other than a starting pistol). (...) it. (...) I will concede that they are currently protected under the second amendment, but I _personally_ (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A) Many of us consider this a bad thing. B) Those on the gun-control side of things typically espouse a significant (but faulty) difference between guns and cars in that guns are intentionally dangerous. I am constantly frustrated by this, but (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If he did that, he would have lost the argument by default. Steve (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The second amendment means that if they get too carried away with negating our rights, we can take them back. (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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