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(...) I merely pointed out why people do what they do. I can't believe that by sharing motivations that I'm proselytizing. I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me. And, I, in no way, am telling someone even "how to" be a Christian. Help me out, how (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All the religious relics of the middle-ages. Eastern Orthodoxism. Protestantism. Reformation. Warrior knights. Pacifists. Rise and disappearance of saints. Mary cults. Seems to change a lot. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't say change with the times - rather that it doesn't stagnate. I guess you could define stagnation as you will, but there are many levels of learnign and debate within the Protestant and Catholic (to name but 2) parts of Christianity (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every belief system is man-made, so it surprises me that the followers of any system can believe one is more valid than another. Maybe the Christian god is off setting up franchises on the other side of the universe. Weren't the gospels (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And THIS is where you should have ended the reply... (...) This makes me sick to my stomach, and furious, and I'm sure there are Christians who would agree with me. Shoving YOUR religion down someone else's throat when they don't want it is (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not intended against religion, though I'm intrigued that you read it that way. I was referring more to adherence to rote, like obeying the teachings of Aristotle in science without examining and verifying them. (...) That doesn't seem very (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, here I was mixing vehement and vemonous. :-) (...) Odd - no one bothered you to reply, yet you did. So who's leaving who alone? I actually like talking about what interests me - I though you did too. I didn't hijack the thread (that (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: (big snip) (...) Perhaps this is the crux of the divergence. You're saying that science focuses on reality - I agree, but how we each define "reality" is different. Reality for you is only the realm (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Vehement. So leave me alone already. This forum is not the time and not the place to prosetylise, a point you seem to be having difficulty grasping, and this thread was not started to discuss religion, so you're hijacking it. Knock it off. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fit in one another's realm -Jon (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I can tell you my perception has changed since I accidently fell into a debate recently. You know those people who have an inner smugness from the knowledge that in any given gathering of people they are generally smarter than just about (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry - your vehemous defence of asking to be left alone is admirable indeed. And you are certainly correct in that you are facing the consequences of your actions - I will actually support your doing so. But I would ask you this - If you knew (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry - your vehemous defence of asking to be left alone is admirable indeed. And you are certainly correct in that you are facing the consequences of your actions - I will actually support your doing so. But I would ask you this - If you knew (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Huh? "They most certainly do" what? I'm not sure what you're referring to here. (...) Oh, ye of little faith. Dave! (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're right to call me on that; I wrote that improperly and more-or-less in direct conflict to my overall argument. Science changes in that it is progressive and cumulative, letting go of obsolete or outmoded theories, or at any rate (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I DON'T - Don't let him force you in to his inconsistant "proof" requirements. See 7864... (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They most certainly do, although it's nice to see that you're answering your own questions... I sense that you are edging closer to God. -Jon (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A suppose this is a slight against religion - stagnation from dogma? If so, I should point out that religion (Christianity at least) hasn't stagnated at all... (...) A bald claim at best - a false statement in reality. (...) No, not really. I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Side point - ARE NOT! Otherwise, you'd stop buying Lego ;-) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Bible was written BY MEN. I refuse to believe that your God would have tapped people on the shoulder 2K years ago, and NO other time in history. Do you believe EVERYTHING written by men? Doubtful. So why believe something written by many (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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