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Re: Critical Thinking
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Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:59:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> 
> > Hey Dave!-- I just thought of a question to which I would like to hear your
> > response: What do you think about scientists who believe in God?  Does
> > believing in something unprovable put into question their worthiness as
> > scientists? Or is there some sort of "out"  from adherence to the scientific
> > method with respect to religion?
> 
>  Lar was already kind enough to answer before I had a chance to respond,
> and he summed it up pretty nicely for me (thanks, Lar!)  I'll elaborate just
> so I'm not guilty of a "me too" post.
>  Many scientists certainly do believe in a god or ultimate something-
> or-other, even if it doesn't adhere strictly to Christian, Hindu, or Animist
> principles.  Two of the most famous quotes by Einstein himself are, to
> paraphrase (at the risk of slightly misquoting):
> 
>  "I want to know God's thoughts--the rest are details."
>  "I refuse to believe that God plays dice with the Universe."
> 
> Interestingly, Hawking has countered this latter quote (which was an
> expression of distaste for uncertainty) by stating that God not only *does*
> play dice with the Universe; he plays them at every moment for every event.
> In addition, Hawking has declared outright that his work is not intended to
> disprove God's existence, and in fact he alludes to "God" being revealed
> through the equations of physics.
>  I would say, therefore, that science and religion are not mutually
> exclusive, in that one can pursue actual science with vigor while
> maintaining devout Faith in God.  I would further qualify that statement by
> saying that science and religion do not fit in one another's realm; the way
> science seeks to explain things is not the way religion does, and vice versa.

They most certainly do, although it's nice to see that you're answering your
own questions...
I sense that you are edging closer to God.

-Jon



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  Re: Critical Thinking
 
(...) Huh? "They most certainly do" what? I'm not sure what you're referring to here. (...) Oh, ye of little faith. Dave! (26 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Critical Thinking
 
(...) Lar was already kind enough to answer before I had a chance to respond, and he summed it up pretty nicely for me (thanks, Lar!) I'll elaborate just so I'm not guilty of a "me too" post. Many scientists certainly do believe in a god or ultimate (...) (26 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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