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(...) Hey Dave!-- I just thought of a question to which I would like to hear your response: What do you think about scientists who believe in God? Does believing in something unprovable put into question their worthiness as scientists? Or is there (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know Jon can speak for himself, but just to clarify things -- I think Jon is alluding to the idea of the "prime mover" or "first cause." No one knows what the first cause of the universe was or is. Science, on this count as well as others, (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose you're testing me with this false statement, since as a physicist you surely know that the greatest strength of science is precisely its ability to grow as understanding grows, rather than stagnate on centuries of dogma; if it were (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, what we have now, with bought and paid for politicians delivering the goods to the various special interest groups that own them is much better, isn't it? (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You can debate the benefits and drawbacks of Libertopia all you want. The fact is that it is still only a pipedream. The majority of Americans would never elect a party that would base governmental, social service or public education funding on the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, you are on to something I think. In the US the major cost would go to lawyers, while it is likely that the developing Eastern European contries are more open to corporations stepping in. They likely will experience less legal resistance (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) you sure? :) all that i know about goedel comes from douglas hofstadter's book 'goedel, escher, and bach: an eternal golden braid', but the impression i got from that was that there isn't a clear answer. of course it's been a while. ;) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ooops, Bud Light! (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yet that was the point. OK, I'm typing really slow here, try to keep up. I was acting like *you* when you go into your little rants to illustrate that you ain't all you think you are. You stepped in it, didn't even see it coming, and are (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep - the posting statistics are pretty scary in this group. -Jon (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(There's a lot here and it would make sense to split up further replies into separate threads depending on the topics below - just a thought) (...) How do you define "saved"? Don't abuse religious language without providing a context for your (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll let it speak for itself, but I find coherency helpful. (...) That implies that I'm a sore loser. On the contrary, I relish losing a hard fought battle against a skilled opponent. Why, just today at lunch, my officemates managed to defeat (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I remember this from the first time it was brought up :) Talk about mental images!? (...) <Typical ++Blather> Many of your "qualms" are based on your own misconceptions. (...) I like this. Again, I'm with ya on that one. (...) You betray (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, but it wasn't a "rant" was it? You're just upset that I beat you at your own game. :D Bill (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I need Hard Evidence. And The Bible isn't it. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The bigger point is: Even if we thought we COULD reproduce the BigBang, should we? What would be the consequences? Would we annihilate our universe in the process? A smaller point related - Black Hole theory. While investigating Black Holes is (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thank-you Tom. I just wanted to be sure exactly where you stand. It's tough posting with people you aren't at all sure of where they stand. So, your belief systems says that you don't know if there is a God. And if there is you need some hard (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah. I suppose that's the beauty of God - that He entrusts His perfect plan into the hands of imperfect people - yet it will not fail. :-) -Jon (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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If it matters (which it doesn't), I am basically agnostic. I won't believe without proof, and NOONE to date has shown proof. I "have faith" that I am right, that God doesn't exist until he taps me on the shoulder, so noone will really be able to (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) HA HA That's why it's a theory - once it's gets more evidence they'll refine the theory yet again. Unfortunately, they'll never be able to prove the theory which is what science drives for. That is, without a supernatural force entering into (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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