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Re: Critical Thinking
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Sat, 2 Dec 2000 04:57:26 GMT
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JOHNNEAL@spamlessUSWEST.NET
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Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
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> I should begin by pointing out that your reference to "honest scientists"--
> apparently in contrast to me and those who share my views--is a thinly veiled
> and perhaps unintentional ad hominem, since in praising my opposite you are
> deriding me. That's your option, of course, but you must recognize that it
> doesn't invalidate my arguments.
> Anyway, who are these "honest scientists?" And can you name a few actual
> scientists (as opposed to "creation-scientists") who've published proposals
> identifying the role of supernatural forces in science? Science is a method
> for understanding the natural world, and the supernatural (a la Faith) is
> therefore by definition beyond the scope of science.
Hey Dave!-- I just thought of a question to which I would like to hear your
response: What do you think about scientists who believe in God? Does believing
in something unprovable put into question their worthiness as scientists? Or is
there some sort of "out" from adherence to the scientific method with respect to
religion?
-John
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> Dave!
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| I ain't Dave! (...) I think Dave! answered it already when he said they were different realms. I think no more or less of a scientist because of his non scientific beliefs, unless he indulges in Jon Kozan's fallacy of letting faith pollute his (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Lar was already kind enough to answer before I had a chance to respond, and he summed it up pretty nicely for me (thanks, Lar!) I'll elaborate just so I'm not guilty of a "me too" post. Many scientists certainly do believe in a god or ultimate (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I suppose you're testing me with this false statement, since as a physicist you surely know that the greatest strength of science is precisely its ability to grow as understanding grows, rather than stagnate on centuries of dogma; if it were (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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