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  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
Todd Lehman wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Todd, of course you have the rule, and it will be your decision at the end but since you asked for opinions, I go for a very strong NO! You have reasons to consider for doing such a thing but I don't believe it (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) OK, I have given this a while to percolate. I admit I am ambivalent. There are good (but not stunningly great) arguments advanced for, and against, the idea of a ventilation group. I won't do the three reasons exercise as I think all of mine (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
(...) I carrot stop, I tell ya! (oh gosh its late) (...) Um..yeah...just keep on thinkin that ;-) (...) Here we go again. -Tim (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
Pease, no more puns! "Bring your kiddies, bring your wife; Guaranteed to have the time of your life because the Mets are really sockin' the ball; knockin' those home runs over the wall!" Sigh... (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
(...) Beantown..I'm a lentil bit unfamiliar with that term... :, -Tim (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
I dunno.. is anybody debating in Beantown? That was decided a few weeks ago. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
"Erik Olson" <olsone@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:G32M66.Bvw@lugnet.com... (...) Is that a debatable sigh? ;-) -- Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com (URL) - Centralized LDraw Resources (URL) - Zacktron Alliance ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: TimCourtne (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  There's a traffic jam in Mudville.
 
Sigh. (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) [snip] (...) meltdown (...) I agree whole-heartedly. I've long subscribed to the view that praise should be public, abuse private. People should be encouraged to use e-mail if they have a problem with a particular person - why does anyone feel (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) Maybe we need off-topic.class-warfare??? 8?) ROSCO FU .off-topic.fun (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
Well, I have read all of these latest developments with some concern and thought that a few comments were in order. For the most part I am a little below the radar for the off-topic/debate crowd but I still read a pretty fair percentage of the posts (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) Yes. (...) IMHO, it is right to expect polite behaviour in certain settings. Should a child tell off their parents? Should you tell off the judge sentencing you? Should you tell off your friend saving you a seat on the bus? Should you tell off (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Are we all too nice? (new name)
 
(...) Put that in .dear-lego, with followups to .general or wherever. Or if you don't want to specially draw attention to it, put it in .general. There's nothing that says that venting can't happen in .general. (...) I think my point got missed (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) I would argue yes. I think that's been made self evident; see Eric Kingsley's post. "good job", "me too", etc., are all great to hear when you're the one getting the praise, but: A. it doesn't help you, save your ego perhaps. B. to many (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) I don't think so, no. More below, obviously. (...) I don't think this is an issue - or shouldn't be, anyway. No one is (to my knowledge) plugged into Lugnet 24 by 7, so the constraints Lugnet imposes are not inherently carried over into other (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) I thought about recommending that the skip-filter be set for the group to automatically be excluded, but given the cookie nature of the feature, I'm not sure that's possible. I certainly think that by default no one should see the flame group, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
(...) I think this should be user configurable. It could be handled like the skip filters, except default to being filtered out. This also leads me to something that I've been thinking would be valuable. I wish the dots were colored or shaded or (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice? (new name)
 
(...) I certainly hope that there would be non-targetted venting, but I think that diluting the purpose of this group too much would be a mistake. I hope that it will be used infrequently, and adding appropriate topics/styles makes that less likely. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
Ok, I've thought about it for a couple of days. (...) I don't know about that. Here's why: If something on Usenet truly offends me, I tend not to complain about it. Why not? Because there is no Usenet admin who can be expected to be looking out for (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Are we all too nice?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes: [snippage throughout] (...) No. There is no such thing. Eric Kingsley took this completely in the direction of constructive criticism toward creative works. And he's right that the only valuable (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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