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  Re: New Chrome Castle Sets
 
If you had called me a jerk, Richard, I would not mind, as I look back and I think I was. But calling Lar a jerk. C'mon dude. Extreme? Yes. Intense? Yes. Well mannered? Yes. Right about a lot of things? Yes. A jerk? No. I still like you, but I did (...) (24 years ago, 15-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
Land from what altitude? I doubt if you'd be able to glide all the way in while staying beneath radar... unless these planes have phenomenally good glide characteristics. ~M (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) aviation craft can land from an altitude with engine turned off, just as a glider, by the help of high lift to weight ratio and very low stall velocity, and of course with an able pilot on controls. I think this could be the ultimate silence. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) 17 tones (metric) normally, 22 tones during wartime, and up to 30 tones max. (requires special order). They are from the TOs (IIRC), so should not be unique to TAF. They were quite good at STOL (without any external boosters or something), (...) (24 years ago, 11-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) A helicopter wouldn't really make much more noise than an OV-10 Bronco, and you get vertical flight too. If it's good enough for the SEALS, it's good enough for me. ;^) Personally, I think the V-22 Osprey is cool as heck, but I wouldn't want (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) Was that the kind with the retro-firing thrusters? If so, I seem to remember some one incident in which the jets were fired while the craft was too high above the runway, and it crashed. Do I recall correctly? Was that a herc? Do they still (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) that the CIA really liked using little Cessna like planes that had an incredible lift to wingspan ratio and could fly at 35mph. I got to watch one take off one day and it took off on a length of runway shorter than my driveway. In terms of (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm lucky to be alive
 
(...) Surely you must recognize the difference between a defective product (tires) which, upon catastrophic failure, directly cause an accident and a product (SUV's) whose design, in the event of an accident, may be unsafe. The high- bumper in (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: I'm lucky to be alive
 
(...) I don't understand why more attention isn't focused on this issue. A few Firestone's wreak some SUVs and you're got a major crisis, but those same SUVs are a major hazard to normal vehicles and there seems to be far less concern about that. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) That could be a spectator sport, not unlike dropping large melons from the rooftops of tall buildings. "I believe it will land some- where inside this 200-km circle..." (...) commented that the CIA really liked using little Cessna like planes (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
Selçuk Göre <ssgore@superonline.com> wrote: <CHOP OTHER STUFFE> (...) ...When I used to work for an airport maintenance service, my boss commented that the CIA really liked using little Cessna like planes that had an incredible lift to wingspan (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) Of course it is an option, too. But high noise and more restricted operational envelopes of helicopters might be a problem, I'm not sure, just an educated(*) guess. Selçuk (*) I'm an Aeronautical Engineer. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) If we're going to start talking about dropping people off, then why not just use a UH-60 in its Special Ops configuration? ~Mark (24 years ago, 7-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) IIRC, the SR-71 fleet has been retired completely. Surely there's something replacing it, but nobody's 100% sure what it is (Aurora or something else?)... (...) <sp-response> Matthias Rust. Anyone know where he is now? (Probably flying jumbo (...) (24 years ago, 7-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) right about SR-71, but you don't need anymore since the effective use of spy satellites. But if you want carry and drop something (human, etc.) what can you do with a SR-71? Parachuting it while cruising at an altitude around 100,000 feet, at (...) (24 years ago, 7-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: a public response to Mr. Stangl's comments
 
(...) I think where you cross the line that causes you to be seen as a troll, is with those last two sentences. Up to that point, your post was without controversy. Admirably mature even. However, (as a reasonably disinterested observer) those last (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) This is supposed to prove that a propeller driven craft is a better spy plane than the SR-71? I don't follow your logic here. ~Mark (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog)
 
(...) Hey, just two simple words: Martin Rusk (sp). (the kid who flew the cessna 172 into moscow in the 80's) How is that for a answer???? James P (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Pricing??
 
(...) -note, a fair number of the special parts for Can/US/South America are made in Denmark and Switzerland...have you ever thought how many of _any_ lego piece you could cram into a container??? Believe it or not, it would cost _less_ to ship a (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New Pricing??
 
(...) Part of that probably has to do with the fact that shipping from Enfield, CT to Canada is cheap and fast. Shipping from Europe (Denmark and Switzerland) to Australia is both expensive and slow. The cost of shipping has obvious effects. The (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.au)


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