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  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) back, (...) I don't really think that's a matter of morality, more like time management. If you only have time to post ten messages, why bother answering banal posts? (...) that (...) Larry, do you really mean that we should abduct all kids (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) What if I take the stance that to a certain degree people must want to free themselves enough to make it happen, or trying to provide them with freedom will do no good? How does that fit into this binary classification? (...) You might perhaps (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Of course not. If Larry did, then he wouldn't be able to confuse you with his standard irrelevant hypotheticals. (...) Positing about an accident makes your argument irrelevant to this specific case, since Elian *didn't* wash up here (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Yeah! That's my job! 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Ahhhh, I love it. Cuban commandos come parachuting down to free the Piutes, but stay to gamble a while in the Indians' Piute Palace Casino. Bruce (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Libertarian (...) Can't we just stick to the actual events? :-) (...) fight (...) Elian was at sea, was rescued, and brought here. Oh alright, I'm nit-picking on that one. (...) I don't think persecution was why they left. (...) The child (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Please reread the relevant part: If she had won, I very much doubt she would have fled. I just don't think she was making any statement about communism. (...) You keep projecting your opinions onto Elian's mother (I'm not faulting the opinion (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) WARNING! Don't take your kids to America, you might never see them again! This is frought with danger. Based on China's human rights record (and gross overpopulation) if a Chinese family visited the USA with a young child, would you advocate (...) (24 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Either that or having him stay in a "democratic" police state. Kya - who has nothing really to add to this conversation other than the opinion that the US is looking more and more like a police state (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
In a different subthread Bruce said I was ignoring a post of his. I think THIS is the one he refers to... sorry about that. OK. (...) I think this is the key point in the post that needs responding to. Let's posit a theoretical example. Suppose (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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