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| Bill, (...) Bill, I was just throwing a mild jest at Selçuk, I am a pessimist anyway, but I have run into so many people that have this attitude, it is hard sometimes, especially when you dabble in politics as much as I do. (...) I agree! : ) I have (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) In response to both of you I would say that the pessimism should not be expected and that the optimism is not foolish. Our "system" is very unique here. The "system" is great, the current bunch who occupy it may not be. Yet I still have faith (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, most Americans believe that as well, but some of us have foolish optimism every now and then! : ) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Being a third worlder, I follow this "Foofoo is better than Blahblah" kind of debates between you, USians, that consider politicians with a kind of amaze..:-) Here in our country things are very clear and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I would say Al is pandering so much as lying. Al was one of my senators. He's not a Tennessean, though. I'm more of a Tennessean than he is, and I wasn't even born here. (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh, I almost forgot...You honestly don't think Al Gump is pandering?! IMO, he is pandering more than anyone. Now, he's playing the race card, again. That's not pandering?! How 'bout a guy, who in local politics was pro-life and fervently so; (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) radical (...) No more than you meant that anyone religious is a right wing extremist. The problem in this matter is that only the outrageous get the attention and taint the entire issue. (...) Morality tanscends the state. It's not just a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, speaking as a veteran, I'd rather have someone in office who knows firsthand what the real consequences of armchair warfare are for real soliders. I'd value the leadership that a retired general could bring to the office but I'd also (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Larry, (...) Hmm.... I am not a huge fan of the entire political process, I am not a huge fan of anything in politics, really. I pick my sides and the people I support, I never even got involved really until I started seeing how screwed up things (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well that's true. It seems we've dredged up the same old arguments. I'd rather that the thread i kicked off focus on the mechanics of the campaign rather than ideologies but one can't control one's thread. I used to get Campaigns and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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