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(...) Why should they be responsible if there were no way company X could reasonably have known chemical X was lethal? That's just random killing.[1] Jasper [1] Of careers, and possibly the people affected as well, as a direct consequence. (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As another example, look at the people that AIDS from blood transfusions, while there were already good indications that HIV was transmitted through blood-contact ("it hasn't been proven yet that HIV causes AIDS!" (which is still true)), and (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We don't? Seems to me we're well on the way there. Corporations are the "slightly clean" version of the Family, after all. Jasper (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<38850672.B6A753EE@eclipse.net> <FoK7Jv.LHr@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I think I'm willing to largely agree that those things will increase also. Paperwork for sure...and that's a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Pointless jabber... Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38acafe0.562152541@...et.com>... (...) It was a joke. (...) this (...) Why bother only changing a small community when its possible to change the world? Anyway, I am not afraid it won't work, and (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Really. "Going by past successes", that is called. (...) So what you are really saying is that you'd rather not do it because you're afraid it might not work. Well, your choice. (...) Thought you were talking about donors. Okay, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which is why you need said government fairly strong to be able to make sure those corporations _don't_ start doing things like that. Jasper (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) VAT in practice, though, is more of a sales tax except that companies don't pay it. What happens is that everybody charges VAT on everything, which is to be transferred through to the government, but companies get any VAT they have paid back. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Christopher Weeks wrote in message <3884B49F.7877B548@e...se.net>... (...) You (...) designated (...) Democratic). (...) Hmm. Most people who I disagree with in real life would not score as Libertarians on that test. In fact I have talked a few into (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mark Rendle wrote in message ... (...) This is basically what I said in my post concerning art and artwork. Perhaps there is a more suitable word for my definition of the word art - anything a man creates. If so, then that eliminates the need for (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38970e5b.389705315@...et.com>... (...) Oh, really?! (...) a (...) I'd like to see that happen. I am sure the Liberals (Socialists) of this country would love it, too... "Wow, those Libertarians in that state are (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped example - I could counter it, but that would lead to wheel-spinning> (...) Hmm. That's not quite what I was getting at - I'm in favor of personal responsibility and liability, in a general sense. However, in a large organization, I (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ack! I don't like that. I'm a strong supporter of the idea of personal liability, but that ranks as an accident, if I understand you. We believe (don't we?) that the herb, rosemary is safe, so we dispose of it willy nilly. Twenty years from (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<3884AEDA.9C6DA48F@eclipse.net> <FoJnnJ.2xu@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) -- How do you hold a company's officers liable? If company X spills toxic goo -- into a river, who is (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<3884AEDA.9C6DA48F@eclipse.net> <FoJMsz.K0p@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I think that if the answer is no, then it will still help, but not as much. Or maybe cause a industry ceo cycle (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was referring to the "people would not notice nearly as much". (...) No. I don't. Why is there a difference? You've still never explained that, all you say is "that should be selfevident". Why do you not trust government? It is made up of (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, right. I read your post as saying that it was OK to cut and paste HTML code[1], though not content itself. (...) A.C. Doyle? Quite probably something is wrong. It's just that I can't manage to see it either, which is why I asked you. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think what I'd most like to see are ebay "preferred forms" to still allow users to select which they'd like the most (also show the popularity of each form), and alternatively (if you REALLY want your own format) you can do it, but a little (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.auction)
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(...) Yes! Or maybe ridiculous price, stay away!, etc. ;) Scott S. (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.auction)
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(...) Yes. The problem is complex, though: If you go back to a small community (say, max cities out at 100k inhabitants.), can you still sustain technology at out current level, and rise beyond that? Are million-plus-inhabitant cities a necessary (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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