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(...) As I'm sure you remember the internet used to be a great bastion of free speech and self-policing. In some ways that attitude has lived on in Lugnet and I'm glad it has. I'd like to know why you think Lugnet should be changed? If it was still (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I find it amusing, in a sad sort of way, that cries of censorship continue to crop up on Lugnet, which is one of the most unmoderated and self-policing communities on the web (at least that I've frequented). The complaints about censorship (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And you didn't bother to correct it even while commenting that I hadn't read the book (and doublethink is (URL) most definitely 1984> so I'm wondering if you've read a single book by Orwell). Since your argument seemed to involve arguing that (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps you should re-read our own words then, before you dust off your old copy of Animal Farm. It was you who "assumed" that Richie was referring to doublespeak when he invoked Orwell. (...) Fair enough. But if we're going to start policing (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I've read 1984 but it was a long time ago. The (URL) wikipedia article> shows that you obviously haven't read it to recently either since the term doublespeak never actually appears. You may also want to check a dictionary for the spelling of (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Nice try, but you might want to actually read Orwell before you start using him to back you up. Doublespeak does not refer to the simple use of euphamism. To qualify as doublespeak, a phrase must use words in a disingenuous way to imply their (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Given the conext of its use and the lack of mention of 'Big Brother' I would assume that Richie is using Orwellian to refer to doublespeak. In this case murfling is Orwellian. It's a 'nice' way of saying censored. Tim (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In the case of a cancelled or deleted post, one can often still see the subject line and the author, but the content is gone forever. The reader can only imagine what horrible nastiness warranted such a scrubbing, and each reader will mentally (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) While murfling may not equate to cancelling or deleting a post, I find it hard to comprehend that anyone would not consider it a form of censorship. Though it has not been used widely on LUGNET, and as a result there are few examples of actual (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I find it interesting that you describe it this way because murfling was never meant to be the same as cancelling or deleting a post. The idea is that questionable posts are visibly separated but still accessible - in essence, a compromise (...) (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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**Snip** (...) **snip more** (...) See? This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. **grins** And if y'all don't knock it off, I'm gonna hold my breath 'till I turn bley! Play Well and Prosper, Matthew (17 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Confused with mfuss? Shoot me now! There's no reason to continue breathing... (Actually, despite Mark's acerbic style, he and I get along pretty well.) (...) Not knowing which site(s) were the genesis of this discussion, I subconsciously (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) True, that. All sites have their troublemakers, or those who don't play well together. I mentioned Lugnet because unlike all other sites mentioned, there is no active moderation here - the only recourse is murfling, which happens rarely and (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I now stand with egg on my face. I had you confused with Mark Pappenfuss. I did a quick scan before posting but wasn't as thorough as I ought to have been. My most sincere apologies for not being more careful and thus casting unfair (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The word has been adopted by the AFOL community (or some of us anyway) and is used in a more general sense to refer to the actions of admins or other personnel of any website. It's a great word, useful and colorful, and more descriptive than (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To Kelly's point, making the observation about the site *members* always will give you your exceptions. I'm not sure why Kelly chose to specifically mention Lugnet, but you could just as well have said BZPower, FBTB, JLUG, Classic-Castle, (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Please provide links to my previous applicable comments so I know what you're referring to. Also, let's define "standard of maturity." I'd call it "Play Well," which is something anybody can do - if they so choose. Not everyone does so choose. (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) For clarity's sake - are you saying Kelly's post had a snide comment about other people's behavior? (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) While I can appreciate you point here, Kelly, I have to say that, based on various comments you've made on lugnet in the past, I wouldn't like to frequent a site where your 'standard of maturity' are applied. This post is a pretty good example (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is has been my experience that maturity and age (being an adult) have nothing to do with each-other. Of course, what defines "maturity" is also widely varied, some taking it to be politeness even in the face of rudeness, and others take it (...) (17 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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