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(...) You may be a man of your word but you have 'selective interpretation' down to a science. If you want to debate the facts, I'm all for it. If you continue to ignore what actually happened, then we're done here. Take care, Dave K (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Ka-On, <snipped> (...) Got me curious about this. It is really true what you are saying? Or are you talking about the average middle/high class? Isn't it true that overthere you have a lot of children labour? I saw a documentary in Discovery (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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What makes you think that Lego would deign to expend the effort it would take to lie to a bunch of insignificant moqsuitoes like us? The contribution margin on the entire load of Maersk ships probably amounts to what we accountants call a rounding (...) (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't need anything to be interpreted. Anyone who knows me knows I am a man of my word. How about you?-Ken (20 years ago, 23-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Spin. Stop it. 'They' did no such thing as 'break a promise'. Fact--TLC had a limited quantity of Maersk Blue pellets and, with no contract with Maersk at the time, as stated, they were not going to get anymore Maersk Blue pellets to make more (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I fully understand what Lego said. I fully understand they broke that promiss. When I say I will do something you can trust me to do it. How about you? -Ken (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't care what happened as far as set numbers. What I do care about is that this was presented as a "Limited Edition of 10,000". They then proceded to break that promiss. What is your word worth?-Ken (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In fact, the run of this new set uses all the Maersk blue ABS pellets we have left. That means that there is literally no Maersk blue ABS left. Even the parks can no longer get Maersk blue. This is a small run too – only 14,000 total, with (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Can we please stop with the spin on the situation? There were no lies At the time, no contract with Maersk to make future sets and LEGO had these pellets to get rid of. Come out with nifty set and use up pellets--limited 'cause, as stated by (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) SNIP (...) SNIP (...) No confussion here. They said through Jake M., SHO, and press releases that it was LIMITED TO 10,000. I don't care about collectability. I bought two the first time one for myself and another for a nephew. I may get (...) (20 years ago, 22-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a theory I buy into..., and until a "solution" is demonstrated, it's a safely self-satisfied theory. Conflict is human nature, and until the day we're all lobotomized, or extinct, it won't change. Keeps things interesting I s'pose. :] (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was in Jake Mckee's own words as well as press releases and marketing through SHO (...) SNIP I too however it strikes directly at fundemental honesty and respect for the consumer that Lego would do this. SNIP (...) Not really I'd welcome it (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well I haven't financed a study however the financial news is rife with news on how Lego continues to loose money and market share while it's competitors continue to grow. Not even Lego argues this point. Every day I cross paths with kids who (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Indeed. I have wondered why the same names keep popping up over and over with respect to TLC negativity. Almost feels a bit like a psy-ops campaign. Free speech is one thing. Excess indulgence is another. fut to .off-topic.debate ( shame we (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmm. More sweeping statements, with absolutely nothing to back it up. Again. (...) If you're aware of the ratio between LEGO soliciting opinions and acting on opinions, then you must have some data to back it up. Show it. Put up or shut up. My (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hi John, I wasn't actually referring to you personally... more the continuous TLC-bashing I've seen from some people, and not just on this subject. Makes you wonder why some people bother frequenting LUGNET, or buying LEGO, at all, if they (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps there are different connotations of the term "limited"? "Limited" in that we will purposefully limit production to X number of units to create collector demand, and will never produce them again, thus protecting their collector's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm pretty sure that the 10152 wasn't either. This whole thing seems to turn on a mistranslation more than anything else. That's pretty funny at one level, actually. Most of the rest of the difference appears to be cultural, we seem to have a (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm pretty sure the duck wasn't marketed as a "limited edition of 10,000". It really matters not what their excuss is if they changed their mind they could have changed the model. Their move was compleatly unethical and problably leaves them (...) (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) around the Transition Team a few months back. Not sure what effect it had or how to "fix" some of the things (one of his theories is that some things are fundamentally unfixable)... (20 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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