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Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:15:36 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   In lugnet.lego, Ken Nagel wrote:
   In lugnet.lego, John M. Rudy wrote:

MAJOR SNIPAGE

   This community really needs to stop hating itself, or I fear it will self destruct pretty soon.

-John Rudy

The problem doesn’t lie within the community it lies within the company. Proof of this is that they are dumbfounded as to why with all of their efforts they are still loosing money.

I missed The whole Marsk debate but let’s face it anouncing to the world that you are producing something as a limited edition and then saying you changed your mind for whatever reason is by definition dishonest.

I promised myself I wouldn’t continue fanning the flames here, but I couldn’t resist one more...

The gist of the complaints against TLC I’m hearing is they’ve made a business decision that “changed” from an earlier “promise” (neither of which I think is true, but there you are). Although the viewpoints are different, the one thing that’s fairly common is that some people are upset LEGO has changed something.

But if LEGO never changed anything, we’d all still be buying this.


Or we’d still be using tubeless CA bricks. Or we’d have six colors.

I’m sure the LEGO-bashers will have a field day with this. Have at.

<snip>

   Lego refuses to listen to anyone wether AFOL or casulal consumer. Until they figure out that they don’t know everything things will get worse.

ROFL. Absolutely not true, from my own experience. LEGO has solicited opinions in various areas and actually followed the suggestions when they made sense. And there you have Lesson #1 on Why Sweeping Statements Can Come Back To Bite You On The Butt.

   It could come sooner than later. Gi Joe was once king, yet as all action figures fade away at some point so did Joe. Bionical is no diffrent. Bionicle is propping up much of Lego. Joe has made somewhat of a come back. The question is then will Lego still be around when the Bionicle kids start feeling nostalgic?

Even though the Bionicle team has 21 years worth of storyline mapped out (we’re currently in the second of seven 3-year cycles), it’s clearly a fad, and I’d be very surprised if Bionicle lasted that long. Yes, it’s definitely carrying the product lines that don’t sell as much, but that’ll change, I’m sure. The question is, will anything else emerge to replace Bionicle’s sales at that time, or will cheap and inferior Chinese-produced competition, bad management decisions, and/or continuing sales slumps (possibly caused in part by disaffected AFOLs) torpedo the company?

I’d like to think LEGO will pull through, and I’ll do what I can to help that. Like not trashing the company every single chance I get.

Kelly

I’m pretty sure the duck wasn’t marketed as a “limited edition of 10,000”. It really matters not what their excuss is if they changed their mind they could have changed the model. Their move was compleatly unethical and problably leaves them open to a class action law suit.

My “sweeping statment” hasn’t bit my butt yet. I’m aware of how often Lego solicets opinoins and I’m aware of how often they go ahead and do it their own way any way. The fact is that Lego is still loosing money and market share to what should be inferior competitors. That pretty much proves my point.

Bionical story lines are really unimportant. The point is do they have 21 years worth of consumers lined up? As kids tire of the line the line and their last healthy stand will crumble.-Kne



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  Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
 
(...) I'm pretty sure that the 10152 wasn't either. This whole thing seems to turn on a mistranslation more than anything else. That's pretty funny at one level, actually. Most of the rest of the difference appears to be cultural, we seem to have a (...) (19 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
 
(...) Hmm. More sweeping statements, with absolutely nothing to back it up. Again. (...) If you're aware of the ratio between LEGO soliciting opinions and acting on opinions, then you must have some data to back it up. Show it. Put up or shut up. My (...) (19 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
 
(...) I promised myself I wouldn't continue fanning the flames here, but I couldn't resist one more... The gist of the complaints against TLC I'm hearing is they've made a business decision that "changed" from an earlier "promise" (neither of which (...) (19 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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