 | | Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
|
|
(...) I'd like God a whole lot better if he'd just bother to show up once and awhile instead of being such a deadbeat dad... Spencer (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
|
|
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) So I'm trying to get to sleep last night--tossing and turning around, and I find myself thinking about my foot. My foot, at that moment, was 'peeking out' from under the sheets and hanging (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
|
| |
| | Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
|
|
(...) Hi Anthony: Thanks for taking the time to reply. Even if you choose not to respond after this post, I hope you'll read my response, if only to get a sense of where I'm coming from. (...) I must confess that I'm not comfortable with at least (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
|
| |
| | Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
|
|
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: SNIP (...) SNIP (...) Sorry for bringing up an old thread, and for beating a dead horse. It's not in my nature to evangelize, but the Catholic in me has been bothered by these two statements. I've been (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Dave, I can give you another data point about MRIs, but everyone else has pretty much covered it that if you need it immediately, you will get it, otherwise, you'll have a long wait. I was getting something checked out and the neurologist (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Well, for millennia we've lived under a system that allocates resources to the economically or militarily powerful, so naturally there's a huge inequity re: who "owns" the resources. If we can fix that inequity, then we can address the others. (...) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Might the logical conclusion instead be that there should be no money at all, without niggling about public vs. private? I don't suggest that I have a fully fleshed-out alternative to offer, but it seems clear that the consensual hallucination (...) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Only insofar as THEY derived a benefit... if what they paid in taxes covered the education services they received, then no... in fact one could argue that I ought to get a credit in my accounting if what they paid was more. But this could (...) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | It didn't have to be this way....
|
|
(URL) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | More fodder, similar topic(was: Re: Driver humiliated)
|
|
(...) I ran into this BBC article this evening: (URL) it right to hold people responsible for not stopping someone drunk from getting behind the wheel? Five years prison each for this? I really could go either way. Again, I'm not very up on modern (...) (20 years ago, 7-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Have you thought through to the logical conclusion of the path you're following? The logical conclusion is that there should be no private money at all. But then that raises an interesting question: Who decides what is reasonable to spend (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Ok, here's a question on this one. If we truly believe that society owes everyone healthcare, do we include global society? Do we owe the billions of people in India and China the same standard of healthcare that is being demanded for (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) But underlying technology is only one aspect. If any of the designers (at MS, Intel, or wherever) went to a public school or received a government grant for college or for subsequent research, then you are benefitting from public money. I (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) I could argue the point that in fact I (and my parents) paid more into the system than we have benefited from it, and I could do so for every example you cite, I think, if I chose to do so. (as a sketch, for the first one, the computer's (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Sure! Here's one example, but there are many: The computer you're using is descended from publicly funded technology for which you have not paid but from which you are reaping the benefit; this is income redistribution that favors you. The (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) How so? Can you elaborate? What routine things do I expect others to pay for on my behalf? I buy my own stuff. (...) Or the ability of his insurance to pay? (...) You wouldn't hold that person responsible for those costs to the maximum extent (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) What follows is all plowed ground... The above presents a false dichotomy in my view. It suggests that either those that are unlucky suffer, or else government has to transfer income (fundamentally, at the point of a gun, since taxation is not (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) Maybe the nature of "routine things" is the issue. Is a small but stitch-worthy laceration routine? How about a broken leg? Anyway, we *all* require that someone else pay for things that we consider routine, present company included. Why (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
Yes, it is true that there are waits for non-critical exams and procedures. However, if it is a more serious case, the wait is usually less than a week. I have a neighbour that injured his knee back at the end of June. Several weeks of physiotherapy (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: A question for my Canadian pals
|
|
(...) I'd say our system is more "socalist" than "communist." Oddly enough, I had an MRI last night (I hurt my arm playing tennis, but an insane specialist wants to make sure I didn't have a stroke. What!?!?). I had one last week, too and I have (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
