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(...) This is a point worth unpacking. Although the election in Spain was influenced by the train bombing, the fact that most of the Spanish electorate opposed the Iraq war was as least as important. In the US, the drumbeat for war was communicated (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I didn't expect a green-eyed inquistition...:-) (...) I think you misunderstood my post, -->Bruce<--, if not completely. 1. Assuming an attack came on, oh, for old time's sake, 9-11 (al-Qaeda seems to enjoy this kind of Islamic brand of (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because I already know the answer that *sane* people would give. 8^) (...) I accept this in principle, but my question is more along the lines of Would Dubya Try It? And if so, what then? (...) Sure, if we were looking at Kerry's bid for (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why is this a question for the conservatives? (...) That's not what the constitution provides for. An event on the order of 9/11 (without minimising how horrific it was) is enough to justify closing stock markets, perhaps, but not enough to justify (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm confused. It seems that John's answer was very clear from the snipped quotes above. 1. "A delay for logistical reasons would be valid." Expanding on John's point, I would suggest that something such as Dave's hypothetical about a power (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ummm, I take it that you aren't going to answer the question... Let's see: you basically blamed Kerry for any attack (and ignored that Americans traditionally rally around the incumbent if attacked, which means any attack is actually an aid to (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) problem (...) would (...) hacks (...) A slightly on-topic response... If a nuke detonated in DC, there would probably be no BF!!! And that means no Christina either if the blast was large enough or the fallout engulfed Arlington... ;( (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Certainly not! I didn't mean to imply that, and I apologize. (...) Bush is in both a tough and a clever spot, in a way. To date, he's been running as The Man Who Can Keep Us Safe. But if a terrorist attack occurs on US soil, he'll instantly (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) While I'm not a Conservative, I would like to say that this has been in the back, middle and -more lately- forefront of my mind since the lead up to Iraq. It doesn't even have to happen here in the states. There's no real reason a even a (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (puts conservative hat on;-) Well, first, I wouldn't ever be happy that an attack on the order of 9-11 would occur. Frankly, I share your suspicion (if that is indeed where you are going) that an attack will occur on our soil to influence our (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm getting more pessimistic as life goes on--I'd be surprised if something *doesn't* happen that'll help Dubya in the months leading up to the election--something like "Oh look! WoMD found in the deserts of Iraq!" or "Tankers of natural gas (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hoping to learn what people in this forum think, rather than what the distilled wisdom of the Internet has to offer. (...) Are you talking about (URL) The Day After Tomorrow,> universally deplored by everyone with an iota of scientific (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why bother asking silly hypothetical questions? All the answers are already available on video. (URL) you know kids are to watching the the latest Hollywood has to offer for science class? What do you think of that? Don (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here's a hypothetical: Let's suppose a major event occurs between now and November 2, something on the order of 9/11. Now let's suppose that Dubya's administration either postpones or cancels the Presidential election in the wake of the disaster, (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and I thought the (URL) monkey theory> had been proven wrong! ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm...mmm, well......... I lied. :-) And I didn't say Irish-American. Nyahh. Nyahh, nyahh, nyahh! -->Bruce<-- 1/2 German, 1/4 Irish, 1/8 Norwegian, 1/8 Dutch, 100% 'Merican Mongrel. (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Actually, Scott's got you, Bruce: (URL) (This mindset was > originally more than just language--the Commonwealth as > it exists today was in fact less ambitious than the original > schemes for Imperial Federation, which could not guarantee > that (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ahhh, I remember those marvelous Ditko Spider-Man comics of my youth! No one drew like him. Oops, sorry, digressing on a digression... -->Does Whatver a Spider Can<-- (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not another word safari! If you have an exact cut and paste quote, I can figure it out. I'm 1/4 Irish. The most I can figure is that I was sloppy and said something about the Irish "half" of the family because I only deal with the German and (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No need to be a pottymouth about this. (...) I just didn't want you to be accused of plagiarism. 8^) (...) Hmm. And here I thought that was (URL) Pete Seeger>. 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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